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Is David Lee going to get paid?
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firefly
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11/22/2006  3:35 AM
I've been thinking about this.

When Lee's contract is up, what's he going to get?

Is it going to be Bruce Bowen = perennial MLE candidate, is it going to be Carlos Boozer = Hot damn, where's my yacht!

Personally, if I had a team with a real star on it, and a chance of competing, I would give him Mo T money ie $8-10m.

What do you guys think?
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11/22/2006  3:59 AM
Depends on who's making the offer.
I could see him making between 5-8M a year.
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11/22/2006  8:59 AM
I hope he gets paid exactly what he deserves but i hope they dont go nuts and further ruin our cap... simple as that
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11/22/2006  9:00 AM
The real question is whos gunna make most out of the 3 sophmores?
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11/22/2006  9:01 AM
If we don't extend him he's gonna get a big offer sheet from seom team.
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11/22/2006  9:07 AM
Does anyone think he can play at this level for long?

Personally, I wouldn't want him past 28.

His game is energy, hustle.

At some point, he'll loose a step, slow down.

His just like Jerome 'Junk Yard Dog' Williams-

Same goes for Nate- he won't last.

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11/22/2006  9:09 AM
JYD lasted pretty long until he got hurt. Lee is way more skilled IMO
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11/22/2006  9:10 AM
Nothing like Junk Yard dog.....why because he has energy

1. He is bigger, he has post moves around the basket
2. Great first step going baseline and can dunk from anywhere on the court
3. He is a better rebounder and has a nose for the ball, top 5 rebounder in the league
4. He can pass the ball and facilitate and offense

Most Importantly
5. He is going to develop a jumper, his touch is improving and he will work on his game, he was a McDonalds All American something that Williams was not, and he is more crafty, he is going to be a great player....

If you played him 35 minutes your looking at 15pts 12rbs not many players in the NBA can do that
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11/22/2006  9:22 AM
his durability was questioned... which is why I brought up JYD, who played with = or more energy than Lee.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jerome_williams/index.html
look again... Jerome's rebounding rate is about what Lee's is, especially early in his career.

JYD was a better defender, and I mentioned above I thought Lee was far more skilled.

I love Lee.. he's my favorite player but beware of projecting stats. Lee's gotta show he can do what he does in the starting line up and for starters minutes. Its not an easy task
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11/22/2006  10:00 AM
This question will be answered in 3 years....thats a long time
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11/22/2006  10:03 AM
Fishmike am I missing something. Lee plays the 4th quarter of the last couple of games and he has been one of the better players on the floor. Doesnt most teams play the best players in the 4th quarter? I dont care if he plays 10 years and never starts a game. The bottom line is you cant compare him to Jerome because of his work ethic. He can average 8 and 8 in 25 minutes for a long time. If he gets more time he will do better.
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11/22/2006  10:12 AM
Why can't you compare Lee to Jerome because of his work ethic? JYD was one of the hardest working players in the league. He was a great rebounder, especially earlier in his career, and he was effective up untill the Knicks made him retire. I still don't understand why. He was doing great for us the year he retired.

Lee upside over JYD is his overall talent level, he seems to have more innate ability. But saying that JYD had less of a work ethic than Lee is simply not true.

If Lee develops a reliable midrange jumper, and continues to box out his man on regualr basis, he will stick around for a while, simply because he would give you a skilled big man with an outside touch who brings it every game. I mean Oak never jumped and that did not hurt him.

Look at a guy like Camby, early on you would never think he would last as long as he did. But he has adjusted his game, stuck to what he does well, and that is rebound and block shots, and he is still a solid starting center, despite not doing all the crazy stuff he used to do ealier in his career.

In my opinion Lee will develop into a nice complementary journeyman big who will go from team to team which is looking to add that final peace for a title run.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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11/22/2006  10:28 AM
Posted by King1:

Fishmike am I missing something. Lee plays the 4th quarter of the last couple of games and he has been one of the better players on the floor. Doesnt most teams play the best players in the 4th quarter? I dont care if he plays 10 years and never starts a game. The bottom line is you cant compare him to Jerome because of his work ethic. He can average 8 and 8 in 25 minutes for a long time. If he gets more time he will do better.
yes.. you are missing something. I only brought up the JYD comparison to make a point about durability, as franco mentioned he might start breaking down. So who in NBA threw their body around more than JYD?
I also that Lee is way more skilled than JYD (twice).
MS said Lee was nothing like JYD, which I did not disagree with. The only thing was I defended JYD's rebounding which was quite good and he had some similar rebouding #s to what Lee does.

Thats it.

I never meant to compare Lee to Jerome as far as BB players, but using Jerome's career as a measuring stick for durability I thought was pretty fair because both guys throw their bodies around. JYD played at a frantic pace for what 10 years? Eventually his knee gave out.

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11/22/2006  10:58 AM
i agree w/fish... JYD was 1 of my favorite Knicks since he got here... i think Lee & him are very comparable in terms of the energy & enthusiasm w/which they play... Lee has shown to be a better passer & have better overall basketball skills than JYD, but their demeanor on the floor is very similar.

at first i thought Balkman was a good JYD comparison, but he's alot more laid back on the floor & not nearly as expressive as JYD & Lee are.
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11/22/2006  11:18 AM
I see one comparison to JYD and Lee. They both played hard. Lee is real physical like the other guys and his body doesnt get beat up. He isnt throwing people around and wrestling a lot in the post. He is using position and his brain. I think Lee will get better as the years go by because his game will evolve and get better.
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11/22/2006  11:19 AM
I also think Lee will only improve as tim e goes on. His improvement on free throw shooting from this year from the last demonstrates both his ability and desire to fix holes in his game. Hopefully we can resign him to Jerome James money.
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11/22/2006  11:20 AM
30's the new 20!!!!!!!! Lee get's between a 42million dollar deal over seven years.
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11/22/2006  11:26 AM
Posted by King1:

I see one comparison to JYD and Lee. They both played hard. Lee is real physical like the other guys and his body doesnt get beat up. He isnt throwing people around and wrestling a lot in the post. He is using position and his brain. I think Lee will get better as the years go by because his game will evolve and get better.
I think thats all we are saying.

But you know this is a league of adjustments, and pretty soon word will get out to start sticking a body on this guy. You also know that people will start to test him physically. Hit him. Grab him. Push him around. Sure it will send him to the line but teams will try to knock him around and try to make him think twice about doing what he does.

Your right, he's smart. We can debate all day how good he will be. Its doesnt matter. What does is FOR ONCE we have a guy thats earned a chance to start and/or at least get starters minutes. There is no debate. Right now Lee is out best frontcourt player.

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11/22/2006  11:29 AM
But you know this is a league of adjustments, and pretty soon word will get out to start sticking a body on this guy. You also know that people will start to test him physically. Hit him. Grab him. Push him around. Sure it will send him to the line but teams will try to knock him around and try to make him think twice about doing what he does.

And you really dont think that hasnt already happened? If put a body on Lee isnt in the scouting report against the knicks than what is?
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11/22/2006  11:35 AM
Posted by King1:

I see one comparison to JYD and Lee. They both played hard. Lee is real physical like the other guys and his body doesnt get beat up. He isnt throwing people around and wrestling a lot in the post. He is using position and his brain. I think Lee will get better as the years go by because his game will evolve and get better.

exactly - lee is not bangin and bruisin very often... I dont see him as being highly injury prone and honestly - while he can jump pretty high.. I dont see him being slowed by an injury very much cuz his game in INSTINCT not as much athleticism... And as he gets older i will garuntee he gets better look at how much he improved in just one year


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Is David Lee going to get paid?

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