I started this thread after reading Nixluva's post about Jeffries particularly using the excuse that Jeffries could hold Paul Pierce in check.


Well I decided to do a Game Log on Paul Pierce for the games in which he played the Wizards while Jeffries was there since the 03 season. Here we go folks.......


2005-2006


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3253/gamelog;_ylt=AoMONj9PU369VL2C.jE5XAKkvLYF?year=2005

Jan 7 23pts (9-19)fg=47%3-7)3pt=42% 5reb 3ast
Jan 25 25pts (10-18)fg=55%(0-2)3pt=0% 11reb 6ast
Mar 7 31pts (8-20)fg=40% (3-7)3pt=42% 5reb 4ast
Apr 5 29pts (11-17)fg=65%(3-5)3pt=60% 7reb 3ast

Basically Pierce did whatever he wanted to offensively, not one bad game against the Wizards. He wasn't gaurded by Jeffries I'm sure all these games but I'm sure Jeffries was matched up against him on many possessions.

2004-2005


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3253/gamelog;_ylt=AoMONj9PU369VL2C.jE5XAKkvLYF?year=2004

Nov 17 37pts (8-25)fg=32% (3-8)3pt=37% (18-20)FTA 8reb 4ast
Dec 31 26pts (9-18)fg=50% (2-5)3pt=40% 5reb
Mar 13 20pts (7-15)fg=46% (4-7)3pt=57% 3reb 5ast
Apr 5 25pts (7-16)fg=43% (2-4)3pt=50% 8reb 3ast

Once again Pierce did whatever he wanted to offensively, not one bad game against the Wizards.


2003-2004

Exception this yr because Jeffries was a rookie but he did log close to 25min/gm as one. I'll post Paul's stats anyway.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3253/gamelog;_ylt=Arv2UZ8An_LpRXs5qCd2l0ukvLYF?year=2003

Jan 23 24pts (8-23)fg=35% (3-5)3pt=60% 4reb 4ast
Mar 5 24pts (7-23)fg=30% (0-5)3pt=0% (10-12)FTA=83% 10reb 8ast
Mar 13 37pts (13-28)fg=46% (3-9)3pt=33% (8-9)FTA=88% 12reb 4ast
Apr 4 17pts (7-18)fg=39% (0-5)3pt=0% 7reb 13ast


He had only one bad offensive game. The games in which his shooting %'s were bad he ate up whoever was gaurded him by still managing to get to the stripe. He averaged close to 27pts/gm playing against the Wizards over 3yrs. That's in no way holding him in check.

[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-19-2006 7:49 PM]

[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-19-2006 7:55 PM]

I'd be interested to find out which player in the entire NBA shuts down Paul Pierce.

oohah

I really like Jeffries. I was the lead supporter in wanting to bring him to the Knicks for close 2 years. He's a good defensive player, plays good man to man defense, plays good help defense, rebounds pretty well but he's NOT a defensive savior. This idea that when he comes back that all of the Knicks problems are going to be whisked away is false hope. Jared will certainly help the team defensively but he can't fix all of the problems.

Posted by Rich:

It's kind of tough stopping a guy when you can't count on your big men to clog the lane and block shots.

Yep and that's what I alluded to in my last post. The 3 spot on this knick team really isn't a problem. It's the front and back court. I'd also like to ask what fan believes Jeffries would do any better than Q does at the 3 defensively?

I think he gives us versatility which is good. Also gives the fans more options when they say "we lost because x wasn't in the game". I think he helps balance the team and will be a good person to plug in. I think the biggest plus to the team is when we replace one of our guards with a monster rebounder/shot blocker

[Edited by - bippity10 on 11-20-2006 3:39 PM]

Something to consider, when Isiah plays "small ball" he still can use Jefferies. Remember he can keep up with allot of pretty quick players. This adds quite a bit of versatility.

We are seeing that Balkman is coming along fine though and offensively he is surprising us at times. It will be interesting to see what happens when Jefferies and him are on the court together. Maybe Balkmans offense will continue to improve and that would be an intersting pairing, regardless of position, due to their defense. Lee in there too and maybe Big Snacks. Not a bad defensive unit... maybe we can sneak Collins in there on occasion...

EMS

nice Fish.


He'll make a difference. He's also a very good weak side help defender. Which will be great when we go small and he's playing PF or even C.

Im interested to see how much of a difference jeffries will make for us

well... no way he should/would replace Q. If Isiah does that he's dummer than even I thought (wow).

Q's played better EVERYNIGHT than everyone else. JJ should start at either forward spot. If its the 3 than Q moves to SG, but I think Q/JJ at the forwards is a good combo

The only move that makes sense to me is benching one of the dynamic duo. Jeffries gives us versatility and Q has earned time more than anyone on this team.