I think the team believe in themselves already. It's whether the so called "Real Knick Fan" picks up on it. Patience, that's all IT asked for. The media has an ax to grind with IT and some people fall right into it also. Give the team a minute. They are very talented and are getting it together. The last two wins showed IT's philosphy works. Ball movement, everybody touching the ball, looking for each other. It's good basketball. Let's enjoy it.

Posted by bigbeast:

I hope Knicks can start a streak, but keep in mind, Boston was/is in a similar situation as Ny. They got off to a bad start, but have won their last 2.

Plus, Boston has a lot of youth and no way do they play as flat as the Heat looked tonite. Knicks have some nice wins on the road, now if they can take care of business at home, they could get a streak going. tons of home games in December.

Amen...

We cannot lose to the Celtics. We can't.

Beating the good teams are bonuses but we're supposed to beat the bad ones.

Posted by K22:

We cannot lose to the Celtics. We can't.

Beating the good teams are bonuses but we're supposed to beat the bad ones.

I feel the same way in my fan-heart, but a loss or a win should not make us too crazy. These guys are still learning, we can see it happening (Unlike last year, hmm. strange that it isn't taking 82 games, what kind of voodoo is this!?)!

But they will still take some lumps.

F!ck the sh!tting Celtics!

oohah

Or is this the weekend the faint of heart will instantly jump ship if the Knicks lose to the Celtics?

The ship be suddenly floatin'

I would be shocked and amazed if the Knicks play D the way they have the past couple games. If they can keep it up who knows how far they can go. That being said, I doubt it will be consistant.

Shaq is a bum. Miami-Shaq=>full strength.

izybx - the only constant is that people will always find something to be afraid of. The effort has been there all season long and the players are just staring to get a feel for each other

I'm Spartacus dammit!

Knicks... and Nate... rock!

Of course I hope so Earl, but like tomverve suggested in the "Isiah swan song" thread, we probably want to be careful of getting too excited with the last two wins. As someone who DEEPLY wants to believe that this team can start to turn things around it is important for us to not get too disappointed with a loss tonight or other signs of inconsistency.

I think we need to maintain a balanced perspective on the development of the Knicks as a TEAM. It is nice to see signs of life in this regard, but with so many players trying to find their roles, and with the fact that at some point Jefferies return may disrupt, and at the same time help later, the teams ability to feel like a team with consistent understanding of roles then we at least put ourselves in a position to not feel so defeated when things don't seem to go as well as we hope.

Development of TEAMS takes time, as I know you and others believe. As a former teacher I know that I saw students who struggled suddenly perform fantasticly, and then later go back to struggling. However, the next year as they learned a bit more about how to function as a good student, using what worked best for them, and build confidence; as a class we learned how to compliment each other and they became less likely to struggle. Of course, some had more success than others, but I think a similar philosophical approach is worth taking when looking at this generally young team. Sure, other teams in the NBA are young too and either do well, or poorly, but I'd like to see us give these guys a reasonable time frame to prove to us that they can show improvement.

Holding the past sins of the Knicks as an organization as well as other possible mistakes made by Isiah against them -- while understandable considering years of failure -- seems unfair to the current squad who does seem to show signs of interest in working together on winning.

[Edited by - PresIke on 11-18-2006 1:49 PM]