Ok, I think all of the probable candidates are now in the poll. Seem ok DJ Su?

what? no anucha?

Layden a distant 2nd

[Edited by - elite on 12-11-2006 10:01 AM]

You figured out who to blame. You know what to do next.

I would assing most of the blame to Curry and Frye for the season thus far. We have high hopes for them to be integral parts of our sucess and , well we all know how they've played. Right now for Frye it's about stopping the regression, the progress can come later. To me he plays like he doesn't want to be here, his heart just doesn't seem into it. While Curry is playing better than last season he still is too much of a non factor.

you can blame isiah for making a bad trade in terms of Marbury & Curry.

But when Isiah came in, the mandate from Dolan was 'Win Now'.

Dolan hired someone who was going to tell him what he wanted- that they could win now.

Isiah said he could win now because as a competitor & winner, you never think you can't.

Although I voted Dolan, I think blame starts to shift to Isiah. When he made the Curry deal, he obviously thought they were one piece away from decency.

He should have told Dolan at that point- and maybe he did- that there wasn't the talent to win, that curry wasn't that great an option, and they should go into rebuild mode then.

Still- its very hard to tell your boss something he doesn't want to hear.

So my question is, why are there ten times as many negative posts about Isiah as Dolan? Why are there so many people who think firing Isiah is a real solution? It seems when you look at this poll like people realize the real problem is Dolan, not simply Isiah, but they forget that when posting

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by wsdm:

So my question is, why are there ten times as many negative posts about Isiah as Dolan? Why are there so many people who think firing Isiah is a real solution? It seems when you look at this poll like people realize the real problem is Dolan, not simply Isiah, but they forget that when posting

I don't think people forget it. We can't really call for Dolan to be fired, and Thomas is the one making public, day to day decisions.

The only way to get at Dolan would be to boycott the Knicks games until he sells or cedes control to someone who knows what he's doing.

I think the problem is Zeke is selling all these ideas to him. It may be Dolan's fault because he's an idiot, but Zeke is supposed to be in charge of building the team.

Posted by islesfan:

Dolan is an idiot and it's a huge problem that his daddy hasn't taken back the team but do you really think that the Knicks would be a complete laughingstock if they had a competent GM since Layden?

Dolan may have wanted to win right away but Isiah was the one in TOTAL control of basketball operations. Dolan listened to Isiah when it came down to basketball decisions, until we got to this point and he had to close the checkbook.

It's been proven time and again that you can win with a stupid impulsive owner, but you can't win with an inept GM.

That's what I said.

Posted by wsdm:

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by wsdm:

So my question is, why are there ten times as many negative posts about Isiah as Dolan? Why are there so many people who think firing Isiah is a real solution? It seems when you look at this poll like people realize the real problem is Dolan, not simply Isiah, but they forget that when posting

I don't think people forget it. We can't really call for Dolan to be fired, and Thomas is the one making public, day to day decisions.

The only way to get at Dolan would be to boycott the Knicks games until he sells or cedes control to someone who knows what he's doing.

I think the problem is Zeke is selling all these ideas to him. It may be Dolan's fault because he's an idiot, but Zeke is supposed to be in charge of building the team.

But they did panic, quick fix moves well before Isiah. They run the Knicks like a corporation that can't afford to take short-term losses for long-term gains. That won't change no matter who the GM is.

Before Isiah the deal was not rebuilding. We were still banking on Allan to return. We had a better all around team. We had KVH. We had Ward at the point. If Isiah built from there and didn't try to remake the whole team and still win while doing it, he wouldn't have such a large hole to climb out of.

Dolan is a jackass and is probably the biggest problem, but first off, there's no way he's selling the team unless if everyone decides to stop buying tickets and watching MSG so that's not gonna happen.

Secondly, any competant GM would be able to convince Dolan what needs to be done. Just look at the Rangers who are in a much better situation and could be contenders. Also, if the Knicks are rebuilding with the crappy players Isiah has put together, it would be easy to convince Dolan to rebuild the team with better players, as a better GM would do.

Yes, Dolan's media policy is putrid, but it doesn't keep the Knicks from building a good basketball team. Heck, the Knicks are already at rockbottom, so even he knows that it will be best to just build from the ground.

A stupid man is easy to convince. Isiah convinced Dolan, the Knicks suck. I don't think Dolan convinced Isiah to go after these players b/c I'm willing to bet he never heard of any of those players. A good GM will also be able to convince Dolan, better times will come.