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tkf
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11/9/2006  12:25 AM
2 points 6 fouls....

hey it is only fair, with all the bynum ass kissing going on around here..

again the overhyping of other players just to put our players down is a little ridiculous...
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11/9/2006  12:33 AM
You be quiet now!! Bynum is better than KG already. Him and Kobe are going to start a dynasty! and Frye is done!
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11/9/2006  12:33 AM
to be fair, he did still out rebound Curry and had less turnovers and more blocks. Bynum just seems to have a more developed understanding of the game than Frye or Curry, and he's four years younger. I'm not rooting against our guys, but it's hard not to look at guys we could have had and feel a little regret. Frye was the "win now" pick, but we're not winning now.
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11/9/2006  12:38 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

to be fair, he did still out rebound Curry and had less turnovers and more blocks. Bynum just seems to have a more developed understanding of the game than Frye or Curry, and he's four years younger. I'm not rooting against our guys, but it's hard not to look at guys we could have had and feel a little regret. Frye was the "win now" pick, but we're not winning now.


yea, but the dude had no baskets with pryzbilla not even playing. And when does drafting a 22 year old player ever become a win now pick.. come on man, how does that even sound?

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11/9/2006  12:43 AM
It goes both ways. I remember when Ariza was gonna be Pippen, Sweets would be Barkley (Brand at least), and Lampley would be Dirk.
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11/9/2006  12:48 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by crzymdups:

to be fair, he did still out rebound Curry and had less turnovers and more blocks. Bynum just seems to have a more developed understanding of the game than Frye or Curry, and he's four years younger. I'm not rooting against our guys, but it's hard not to look at guys we could have had and feel a little regret. Frye was the "win now" pick, but we're not winning now.


yea, but the dude had no baskets with pryzbilla not even playing. And when does drafting a 22 year old player ever become a win now pick.. come on man, how does that even sound?

Magloire played and he's a solid defender, but picking a 4yr college player over a high school senior and ignoring their talent and potential is a win now move. I think Frye can be a solid player, but I don't think he can start with Curry. Drafting Bynum maybe prevents the Curry trade, which means maybe we have Tyrus Thomas and Bynum right now and a lotto pick next summer. Instead, we have two offensive bigmen who can't rebound consistently or defend and can't play together.

It's not even the specific players - it's this idea that we can get rich quick or we're not that far away from being contenders, we are. We are very far away. An effort needs to be made to maximize our draft picks and we've lost 4 in acquiring Marbury and Curry and spent two lotto picks on Frye and Sweetney who do not look like starters - and really, we traded Sweetney for Curry, so that's 6 lotto picks to get Curry, Marbury and Frye. It's just the outlook. The short-term solution that doesn't ever work. If we'd just used our lotto picks well, even if we'd taken we'd be in better shape.
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11/9/2006  12:52 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by crzymdups:

to be fair, he did still out rebound Curry and had less turnovers and more blocks. Bynum just seems to have a more developed understanding of the game than Frye or Curry, and he's four years younger. I'm not rooting against our guys, but it's hard not to look at guys we could have had and feel a little regret. Frye was the "win now" pick, but we're not winning now.


yea, but the dude had no baskets with pryzbilla not even playing. And when does drafting a 22 year old player ever become a win now pick.. come on man, how does that even sound?

because he was picked over a 18 year old win later prospect?

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11/9/2006  12:56 AM
At least according to some reports, the Lakers would have taken Frye over Bynum too.
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11/9/2006  12:58 AM
He's barely 19. he'll have his up and downs
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11/9/2006  12:58 AM
You might want to pick a night when Frye and Curry don't score just 4 points apiece to ridicule Bynum.
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11/9/2006  12:58 AM
Posted by Rich:

At least according to some reports, the Lakers would have taken Frye over Bynum too.

there was a reason why bynum was sitting in the audience that night:) and it wasnt guess work
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11/9/2006  1:00 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by crzymdups:

to be fair, he did still out rebound Curry and had less turnovers and more blocks. Bynum just seems to have a more developed understanding of the game than Frye or Curry, and he's four years younger. I'm not rooting against our guys, but it's hard not to look at guys we could have had and feel a little regret. Frye was the "win now" pick, but we're not winning now.


yea, but the dude had no baskets with pryzbilla not even playing. And when does drafting a 22 year old player ever become a win now pick.. come on man, how does that even sound?

because he was picked over a 18 year old win later prospect?

still doesn't make sense, when you draft guys, you feel that you will get 10-12 years out of the guy, weither he is 18 or 22, so I don't see your point here. Frye was the better player who IT felt still had plenty of upside, drafting one player over another who is a few years older is not a win now move, how many rookies outside of lebron were expected to come in and help their team win now? I know that wasn't the book on frye....

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11/9/2006  1:02 AM
Posted by islesfan:

You might want to pick a night when Frye and Curry don't score just 4 points apiece to ridicule Bynum.

this has nothing to do with frye and curry 4 me. I am not obsessed by that. Like most here are..
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11/9/2006  1:02 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Rich:

At least according to some reports, the Lakers would have taken Frye over Bynum too.

there was a reason why bynum was sitting in the audience that night:) and it wasnt guess work

I'm just pointing out what was reported in the LA Times.
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11/9/2006  1:03 AM
So you've started crusade to quiet the masses who like Bynum over Frye. I guess you've done a good job. Congratulations TKF.
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11/9/2006  1:05 AM
The raptors also needed a center but took a older player in CV over Bynum. Was that also a win now move?
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11/9/2006  1:07 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by martin:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by crzymdups:

to be fair, he did still out rebound Curry and had less turnovers and more blocks. Bynum just seems to have a more developed understanding of the game than Frye or Curry, and he's four years younger. I'm not rooting against our guys, but it's hard not to look at guys we could have had and feel a little regret. Frye was the "win now" pick, but we're not winning now.


yea, but the dude had no baskets with pryzbilla not even playing. And when does drafting a 22 year old player ever become a win now pick.. come on man, how does that even sound?

because he was picked over a 18 year old win later prospect?

still doesn't make sense, when you draft guys, you feel that you will get 10-12 years out of the guy, weither he is 18 or 22, so I don't see your point here. Frye was the better player who IT felt still had plenty of upside, drafting one player over another who is a few years older is not a win now move, how many rookies outside of lebron were expected to come in and help their team win now? I know that wasn't the book on frye....

Frye was more ready to play right away than Bynum but Bynum had/has more upside. That's what's called win now. Isiah is and has always been about win now or win very soon instead of building a long term solution. Sure, Frye may give you a good 10-12 years, but Bynum may give you a VERY GOOD 10-12 years... and at the time of the draft Bynum's start of those years was further away then Fryes. That's a win now attitude.
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11/9/2006  1:07 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

You might want to pick a night when Frye and Curry don't score just 4 points apiece to ridicule Bynum.

this has nothing to do with frye and curry 4 me. I am not obsessed by that. Like most here are..

posting a dude's box score immediately after he has a tough night kinda qualifies.


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11/9/2006  1:09 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by islesfan:

You might want to pick a night when Frye and Curry don't score just 4 points apiece to ridicule Bynum.

this has nothing to do with frye and curry 4 me. I am not obsessed by that. Like most here are..

posting a dude's box score immediately after he has a tough night kinda qualifies.

qualifies as what. I never mentioned frye or Curry, If that was my objective, why woould I do it on a night they both had subpar games.. come one man think.. think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11/9/2006  1:10 AM
I don't understand how its NOT a win now move when the two players in questions would both fill a need in the frount-court with the Knicks and both are projected to be in the lottery. Now One of them is coming out of high school and the other is a 4year college player, keep in mind they both fill the same need and they both are projected to be in the top10. If drafting the 4year college player over the guy with less talent at the moment but has the chance to be a VERY special and one of a kind player because of his size and skills isn't a safe pick, than I don't know what a safe pick is.



[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-09-2006 01:12 AM]
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