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Finestrg
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11/5/2006  11:59 AM
(1) Bring in Justin Williams. Young, athletic shotblocking presence that we can get NEXT TO NOTHING RIGHT NOW!!!!! Even though our perimeter defense suck **** against Indy, we're still a team with no intimidator/shot-blocker at all. Plus we have the roster spot open for him. I can't believe we haven't taken a chance on this guy. It's OK for a team like SA to bring in a guy like James White (fills a needs for them, they really don't have a thoroughbred-type like White to get up and down the court for easy buckets - nice move for the Spurs) but we can't fill a shot-blocking need with this kid? Theo Ratliff's name and his whopping 11+ mil./season contract came up a lot last year and during this summer, then Zeke goes and gets Cato-----he's obviously aware that the need for this type of player is there, then doesn't show any interest in this kid at all??? Blows my mind....

(2) Play Balkman more for his defense. He's got to get more PT. I thought his defense in the limited time he got against Gay the other night was AWESOME. He got up and was challenging Rudy's shots and made it tough on him. Gay was a completely different player with Balkman checking him. Then Zeke never went back to him down the stretch and Gay went off. We need to see more Balkman. And that means....

(3) With Balkman in, stay with Q - Q moves to the 2. With the way Q is playing right now (power game, going inside, etc...) he could do even more damage against shooting guards than at the 3-spot.

(4) Call more plays for Channing. Start with plenty AND I MEAN PLENTY of pick and pop with this kid. DO IT ALL DAY LONG!!!! - Such a big strength we have and we haven't been going to it at all. Zeke kinda hinted that that will always be there for Frye as the preseason was winding down... Well you know what, GO BACK TO IT!!!!! Can't understand it. He's automatic with that play. If they do that and Channing cans 4-5 pick and roll jumpers in a quick span you'll see the rest of his game come together, you watch. Then move him in closer and work the inside game with him when Curry needs a blow. I can see how a guy like Warrick can give him a little trouble on the defensive end, but how the hell was he not punishing AND I MEAN FUCKING PUNISHING Warrick on the other end???? He needs to feel like he's contributing. Get this kid involved. GO OUT OF YOUR DAMN WAY TO GET THIS KID INVOLVED!!!! And do it now. We need him to start playing some ball.

Let me know what you guys think...
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11/5/2006  12:17 PM
Channing needs to post up more. He's playing like a P**sy right now with his 18 footers to 3 pointers. Briggs is 100% correct, it should be strictly posting up and short to mid range Js for Frye. He's not playing aggresive at all right now, on either end.
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11/5/2006  12:19 PM
Maybe it's me but I'm not seeing many set plays and way too much freelancing going on. I'm really starting to wonder if Zeke's coaching is more than "just go out there and do your thing". He touts this offense but yet our bigs are either not getting set up well or just flat out getting ignored. You have people standing still and not moving around, people trying to dribble through zones and making dumb passes, it just seems to look so disorganized.

Again, maybe it's me.
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11/5/2006  12:41 PM
Posted by K22:

Maybe it's me but I'm not seeing many set plays and way too much freelancing going on. I'm really starting to wonder if Zeke's coaching is more than "just go out there and do your thing". He touts this offense but yet our bigs are either not getting set up well or just flat out getting ignored. You have people standing still and not moving around, people trying to dribble through zones and making dumb passes, it just seems to look so disorganized.

Again, maybe it's me.

Isiah's whole offense is predicated on not running plays. Of course, Marbury has only ever excelled running a deliberate half court offense that's almost entirely based on the pick and roll. Which is fine, Stockton did that, but it doesn't fit the style we play now. I thought Crawford would be better at the push offense, but he's looked just as lost. I think Craw can get it eventually, but I think asking Marbury to change his entire offensive game this late in his career is just not going to happen.
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11/5/2006  12:51 PM
Channing Frye has shot zero free throws through three games. He has to go inside once in a while.
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11/5/2006  12:53 PM
Posted by King1:

Channing Frye has shot zero free throws through three games. He has to go inside once in a while.

Damn zero! I didn't even realize! For a starting power-forward that is absolutely pathetic. This is what I was worried about with Channing when he was coming out of Arizona. Playing in the guard-notorious Pac10 did alot of damage to his inside game.
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11/5/2006  1:09 PM
For Channing to be an effective player he needs to come off the bench. He needs 10-15 jump shots a game. he wont get that playing with the first team. Crawford doesnt start and he gets his shots even though they are bad ones.
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11/5/2006  1:26 PM
Posted by King1:

For Channing to be an effective player he needs to come off the bench. He needs 10-15 jump shots a game. he wont get that playing with the first team. Crawford doesnt start and he gets his shots even though they are bad ones.

channing should take 10-15 post shots per game, not jumpshots. IT should sit him if he attempts anything past the foul line. I dont care how good of a jumpshooter he is, thats not winning basketball. Right now he should concentrate on getting 10-12 rebounds. If he does that, good things will happen for him. He's fixated on his shot.
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11/5/2006  1:32 PM
I agree with you Briggs but the preseason and the first three games he is shown nothing but a jump shooter. I agree with you on David weight he will lose about 10 of it as the season goes. They want him to bump and rebound that is why he put on the extra weight
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11/5/2006  1:37 PM
This entire post is 100% correct and should be sent to IT. ASAP!
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11/5/2006  1:40 PM
Posted by Finestrg:

(1) Bring in Justin Williams. Young, athletic shotblocking presence that we can get NEXT TO NOTHING RIGHT NOW!!!!! Even though our perimeter defense suck **** against Indy, we're still a team with no intimidator/shot-blocker at all. Plus we have the roster spot open for him. I can't believe we haven't taken a chance on this guy. It's OK for a team like SA to bring in a guy like James White (fills a needs for them, they really don't have a thoroughbred-type like White to get up and down the court for easy buckets - nice move for the Spurs) but we can't fill a shot-blocking need with this kid? Theo Ratliff's name and his whopping 11+ mil./season contract came up a lot last year and during this summer, then Zeke goes and gets Cato-----he's obviously aware that the need for this type of player is there, then doesn't show any interest in this kid at all??? Blows my mind....

(2) Play Balkman more for his defense. He's got to get more PT. I thought his defense in the limited time he got against Gay the other night was AWESOME. He got up and was challenging Rudy's shots and made it tough on him. Gay was a completely different player with Balkman checking him. Then Zeke never went back to him down the stretch and Gay went off. We need to see more Balkman. And that means....

(3) With Balkman in, stay with Q - Q moves to the 2. With the way Q is playing right now (power game, going inside, etc...) he could do even more damage against shooting guards than at the 3-spot.

(4) Call more plays for Channing. Start with plenty AND I MEAN PLENTY of pick and pop with this kid. DO IT ALL DAY LONG!!!! - Such a big strength we have and we haven't been going to it at all. Zeke kinda hinted that that will always be there for Frye as the preseason was winding down... Well you know what, GO BACK TO IT!!!!! Can't understand it. He's automatic with that play. If they do that and Channing cans 4-5 pick and roll jumpers in a quick span you'll see the rest of his game come together, you watch. Then move him in closer and work the inside game with him when Curry needs a blow. I can see how a guy like Warrick can give him a little trouble on the defensive end, but how the hell was he not punishing AND I MEAN FUCKING PUNISHING Warrick on the other end???? He needs to feel like he's contributing. Get this kid involved. GO OUT OF YOUR DAMN WAY TO GET THIS KID INVOLVED!!!! And do it now. We need him to start playing some ball.

Let me know what you guys think...


1. So we still have an open spot for someone do we? #15, waiting for someone to take it. I got a question. What would the contract be for this guy Justin Williams. If it's a long term, high priced contract, then forget it. If it's fair, then get him, because we can use more defense minded players on this team.

2. I like the idea of using Balkman for his defense, but it looks like Lee isn't going to get the time needed to make a statement. Maybe we use Lee when we are an offensive team and Balk when we need to be a defensive team. But then again, if Frye starts to heat up, then Lee is out again.

3. On 'Que' him at that position wouldn't be a bad idea.

4. Strong words for Frye. With Balkman and Q getting a strong scenario here, Lee is out. The problem with this team is, each one has a great strength, but non of them has all the tools to do the positions any justice. It causes too many changes and no one can get into sinc as a first and/or second unit.

I'll never trust this' team again.
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11/5/2006  1:46 PM
Posted by K22:

Maybe it's me but I'm not seeing many set plays and way too much freelancing going on. I'm really starting to wonder if Zeke's coaching is more than "just go out there and do your thing". He touts this offense but yet our bigs are either not getting set up well or just flat out getting ignored. You have people standing still and not moving around, people trying to dribble through zones and making dumb passes, it just seems to look so disorganized.

Again, maybe it's me.

They can't get into sinc because they don't compliment each other very well. Also, we lack players who have all the tools to play those positions. The only ones might be Lee, Nate and Q. Great at one thing, fair at other things. With the rest of the players, it's either great at one thing and lousy at anything else. There's no rythem on the court, because there's no movement and there's no movement, because there's no team work. Hog ballers in starbury and franchise doesn't help. We have a lot of good athletes who can do some great things, but we have no chemistry with this group and that is just as important as anything else to win games. Take the Yankees for instance. Great hitters, great players, but zero chemistry. O'Neal must be turning over in his grave. Oh' wait a minute. He's still with us!
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11/5/2006  1:47 PM
Posted by King1:

Channing Frye has shot zero free throws through three games. He has to go inside once in a while.

That's a glaring stat, even though it's only 3 games, it's 3 games too many.
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11/5/2006  1:52 PM
bottom Line. This isn't a defensive unit. Losing Jeffries really hurts this team. HE set the tone defensively and Harrington would've not looked like Duncan during the game.

Frye is not a post up big man.. he knowned for shooting so he should come off the bench and play with the 2nd unit..


This team has major problems on the defensive end
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11/5/2006  2:19 PM
Brown had Frye setting up on the high block. From there he was in position to take a dribble or two and be at the rim, or to cut and get a shovel dish for a swish. Isiah has Frye setting up just inside the arc. He's not being positioned to take anything but jumpers - which I find very sad.
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11/5/2006  3:04 PM
isiah is making channing look like a bust.
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11/5/2006  3:25 PM
IT isnt making Channing a bust. Everyone in the league knows he can only spot up and shoot. He cant put the ball on the ground, and people are jamming him. He isnt going in and mixing it up, and he wants to stay out and shoot jumpers. When have you ever seen Channing put the ball on the ground and make a move?
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11/5/2006  3:27 PM
Posted by King1:

IT isnt making Channing a bust. Everyone in the league knows he can only spot up and shoot. He cant put the ball on the ground, and people are jamming him. He isnt going in and mixing it up, and he wants to stay out and shoot jumpers. When have you ever seen Channing put the ball on the ground and make a move?


channing is severly limited. but i'm talking about getting him out of the starting lineup and make him the 1st option in the 2nd unit. run some pick and rolls b/c right now, channing can't do ANYTHING and 2nd round players like gomes is looking better right now.
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11/5/2006  6:07 PM
Posted by King1:

IT isnt making Channing a bust. Everyone in the league knows he can only spot up and shoot. He cant put the ball on the ground, and people are jamming him. He isnt going in and mixing it up, and he wants to stay out and shoot jumpers. When have you ever seen Channing put the ball on the ground and make a move?


I think Frye is being sold short here. However, he certainly could be utilized a lot better than Isiah has, IMO.
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11/5/2006  6:57 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by King1:

IT isnt making Channing a bust. Everyone in the league knows he can only spot up and shoot. He cant put the ball on the ground, and people are jamming him. He isnt going in and mixing it up, and he wants to stay out and shoot jumpers. When have you ever seen Channing put the ball on the ground and make a move?


I think Frye is being sold short here. However, he certainly could be utilized a lot better than Isiah has, IMO.



That was back when Larry Brown was draining Channing's self-confidence.
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