Its clear after watching the kid in limited minutes his mere presence is already more imposing than that lump of **** we put in the middle, I don't care if Curry has some good games I am looking at it from this perspecitve.

1. You can tell the kid cares (He hustles, Challenges shots, Can Rebound)
2. Jumps out of the building and will get respect around the league
3 Has potential to get better and will get better

He just looks like he is going to be everything Ben Wallace is and more in the paint once he gets a grasp of the game.

Yet again Isiah was short sighted with his assement of a player he brought in; but you look at the Bulls last night why are they successful?

THEY GOT RID OF THE SHIT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THEIR FUTURE CRAWFORD/CURRY/CHANDLER

And we could have been in a very nice position had our genius draft consultant because thats all isiah really is, makes shortsighted moves.

And we had Penny to package for Jalen so we could have got Marcus Williams, and even though I would rather have Bynum than Frye in all seriousness what penetrating player like a Lebron or Wade would not have loved to play with a team of that includes either

Fyre
Thomas/Lee

It's alot easier to be something special if you don't go for the home run especially when you have the market that can make a player a star and double his endorsements

He was certainly tougher and more athletic than Curry last night.

I would be very excited about at Frye/TyThomas frontcourt as I think thats a great fit for now and the future but its not meant to be.

Curry is a creampuff but he's our creampuff, and I dont blame him for the terrible trade that got him here. Quite the contrary I'm rooting for him to suceed. He will never be a tough/nasty type player, but he can still be a good player for us.

Unfortunatly Curry forces Frye to PF where he gets used on a nightly basis. To me thats the bigger problem, and since Curry's cost commits us to him for the long term it means to improve the situation you need to explore trading Frye.

the guy that comes to mind when i see him...a more athletic kirilenko

4 points-5 rebounds in 16 minutes plus a broken nose. If Curry puts up stats double that he will be bashed.
TT has a fast live body. He will score and rebound but is he more like Stromile Swift or Dominque Wilkens? Where are the offensive moves other than dunking?

What are Curry's talents?

1. He has been committing the same offensive fouls for five years; hasn't made the necessary steps to correct it.
2. He doesn't ever show the will to defend or get up for rebounds, he is a beast that should be getting over two blocks a game
3. He comes into camp overweight and out of shape every year, and then one he didn't he jacked himself of up supplements so he could lose the weight
(More often that not he is winded)
4. He kills an offensive movement when he gets the ball

His positive traits?
1. He shoots a high percentage
2. Can sometimes score in bunhces.

Ty Thomas doesn't know how to play the game, he is a tweener right now that is developing his game, but is always around the rim and the ball, and he will be a big reason that the Bulls stop Miami this year. Wallace is going to give shaq all he can handle and that weak side help is going to be an enormous key along with the defense of Hinrich, Deng, and Noch

He has a similiar game to Ben Wallace and everyone respects someone that always leaves it out on the floor which you can tell already he does, he plays with passion and frankly i can't respect Curry because he never handles his business on or off the court

Posted by Bippity10:

I don't think Curry should be shattered for the performance that Thomas had last night. The reality is if the pick was lottery protected we could have both of these guys. I will say that Chicage is now successful because they got away from the same mistakes that many GM's make. Drafting on potential instead of results. They got sick of begging players to play hard. They got sick of having to teach fundamentals to guys that did not have the will to learn. They got sick of having to say all the right things to every player on the team. They got sick of having to coddle players in order to get them to perform. They instead they went out and got guys that know how to win. Guys that play hard even if they hate everything about the circumstances they are currently in. Ben Wallace hated his coach yet played hard every moment. This is the formula Chicago followed. They made a cultural change. They went after winners and leaders. When we do this we will go from hoping for 40 wins to challenging for titles.

there's another gift coming next draft also. the gift just keeps on giving...

passing on bynum isn't bad- because in 2-3 years, he might be viewed as the best player that was available- possibly better than chris paul.

several gms passed, and many questioned the lakers.

big gambles sometimes pay off big.

the lakers appear to have won their bet

isiah and dolan have lost theirs with the curry trade.

Also, Larry Brown's presence in NY last year results in Chi getting Ty Thomas as opposed to Cedtic Simmons.

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Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bippity10:

The point is, with a well crafted trade we could have had both of them.

really there's no way you can make that statement... we could have had Kobe Bryant w/a well crafted trade, who knows? does that make it a reality? the fact is that Chicago wanted that pick unprotected, & that's what Isiah gave them... whether they would've made the trade or not w/o that restriction taken off the pick is anyone's guess... no use in speculating about whether or not we could've had both these guys, cuz it didn't happen.

So if you can't lottery protect the pick in my view you don't make the trade.

if u don't think Curry was worth it, that's a fair argument... i'm holding off til i see if Curry breaks out this season before i join you there.