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Allanfan20
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9/15/2006  1:40 AM
Same deal, see who's a boy see who's a man, yada yada...

David Lee:

Strengths: Very athletic, great overall attitude and works hard 100% of the time on the court, very good rebounding instincts and has the ability to be one of the better rebounders in the league sometime, good passing big man, works hard on the D, like Channing, David Shows leadership qualities and a good head on his shoulders, coaches player, can put the ball in the hoop at times, cool haircut, can also be a captain years from now.

Weaknesses: Not good at closing out on perimeter shooters as he sometimes gets there too softly w/o putting a hand up (Don't know why others don't talk about it.), very inconsistent shooter and needs to work on free throws especially, gets lost on the D and needs more experience, and despite great abilities, still needs to work on rebounding so he can fullfil that potential, seems to be a tweener.
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9/15/2006  8:19 AM
strengths: mr. energy. runs the floor like a gazelle and can fly to the rim. very good at alley-oops and put backs. amazing rebounder who has the nose for the ball. can play the 3 and the 4. knows what it takes to win at a young age and can be a special part of a winning team in the future ( not necessarily the knicks). jumpshot has improved. willing to listen. very athletic and a good enough physique to easily muscle in the lane. will listen and do anything the coach ask of him unlike most of his teammates. suprisingly high b-ball iq for his age similar to channing. good court awareness.

weaknesses: limited offensive capabilities though he has shown flashes of being a good scorer. sometimes look lost on the floor. his energy can cause some carelessness like fouls. right now, he can best serve the team with limited minutes. defense needs help. being a tweener has its disadvantage ( too slow for a 3 and to small for a 4) that has been exposed at various points last season.
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9/15/2006  10:08 AM
David Lee

strengths: all about the intangibles - hard worker, always hustling, 1 of the best athletes on the team, runs the break extremely well & finishes w/the best of them, aggressive going to the hole & wants to throw 1 down in your face if he can, great teammate, very heady player, good passer for a bigman, sees the floor well, best rebounder on the team, very good leadership qualities shown at an early age, good things happen when he's on the floor.

weaknesses: no real offensive game to speak of, needs to work on his perimeter shot, has no go to move other than his 2 handed dunk, bad free throw shooter, tweener in every sense of the word, apt to committing turnovers due to overzealous play.
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9/15/2006  1:29 PM
Strengths: Top shelf athlete. Outstanding leaping ability and timing. One of the best workrates in the NBA. Picks up rebounds in bunches. Moves the ball well within the office. Vision to find the open man. Capable of making a spectacular pass. Talented finisher who can finish with either hand. Outstanding finisher on the fast break. Adequate ball handling ability. Active defender who takes pride in his defense. Not a bad shotblocker for his size/position.

Weaknesses: Too light to play PF full time and doesn't have the natural ability to be an SF on the offensive end. Raw offensively with no face up game. Not a threat to shoot the ball and defenders will play off of him. Still learning the nuances on defense and can be beat off the dribble and muscled int he post. Below average free throw shooter.

Bottom Line: Lee is an outstanding rebounder and husltle player. The kind of guy who will put in the dirty work to help teams win.
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9/15/2006  5:10 PM
Strengths: Big time athlete, and understands the game. Will average 8 rebounds a game if he get 27 minutes a game. Willing to make the extra pass, and has all the intangibles to be a solid NBA player. Weaknesses he has no confidence in his jumper and isnt as bad of free throw shooter that he showed last year. Will shoot close to 70% this year like he did in the last two years of college. Needs to work on lateral quickness. Will be a better defender this year due to the experience of being a rookie last year. I see david getting about 25 minutes a game this year and average 8 points and 8 rebounds a game. That is a pretty good bargain for the 30 pick in the draft.
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9/15/2006  7:08 PM
Scouting report-If Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes hooked up in "White Men Can't Jump", he would be their illegitimate child.
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9/15/2006  8:30 PM
Strength - High Jumper

Weakness - No outside shot


How in the hell did Lee show "leadership" qualities? you guys kill me sometimes
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9/15/2006  8:32 PM
Scouting report: Token White Boy on the Knicks; Latter Day Dr. Crash.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 09-15-2006 20:32]
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9/17/2006  10:26 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

Scouting report: Token White Boy on the Knicks; Latter Day Dr. Crash.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 09-15-2006 20:32]

That's just racist and stupid. He's not "token".
a) he's the best rebounder on the team,
b) he could arguably be our best fit as starting PF.
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9/18/2006  10:42 AM
Posted by BasketballJones:

Scouting report: Token White Boy on the Knicks; Latter Day Dr. Crash.

[Edited by - basketballjones on 09-15-2006 20:32]


I'm black, there's nothing 'TOKEN' about Lee. I've been following him ever since I watched him win the High School dunk competition, where he did his thing. I was a little disappointed in his college carreer, but he made up for it by being named MVP in one of the pre draft basketball camps last year. Lee is a player...period. He doesn't have a defined game, but he hustles and plays his ass off. Nothing token about that. I'm Marbury's biggest fan, but if some of the veterans played like Lee, we would be better off as a team. I do have us down as being an above .500 team this season.
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9/18/2006  11:02 AM
I'm Asian & i agree w/tapseer. ;p
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9/18/2006  11:26 AM
I'm american and agree with all three.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 09-18-2006 11:26 AM]
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9/18/2006  11:27 AM
I like that.

Dr. Crash.

Who is the original Dr. Crash?
Posted by BasketballJones:

Dr. Crash.

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9/18/2006  2:05 PM
Dr. Crash = Chris Dudley. Of course I think David Lee is much better than Dudley was.

I'm glad you guys finally got around to calling me a racist. I was starting to feel left out.
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9/18/2006  7:12 PM
That's the basketBall Jones I know and love.

Racists?

I think you are just an equal opportunity offender.

stop being so sensitive guys, maybe you should be more sensitive to the evil posts by islefat than a tongue in cheek observation from the funniest poster on the board.
Posted by BasketballJones:

Dr. Crash = Chris Dudley. Of course I think David Lee is much better than Dudley was.

I'm glad you guys finally got around to calling me a racist. I was starting to feel left out.

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9/18/2006  8:46 PM
Posted by Panos:

b) he could arguably be our best fit as starting PF.

As much as I like him, no he couldn't. No one in their right minds would start him over Channing.
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9/18/2006  9:21 PM
Why? You get a backcourt of Frye, Curry and Jefferies and that's a HORRIBLE rebounding frontcourt and not a very good defensive frontcourt either. However, you make it Lee, Curry and Q then it's a great rebounding court and then you'd just have to hope and pray that the defense can pick up. Lee is no better than Frye on the defense right now though. But I think it's best to start off with the rebounding lineup with Craw and Marbury in the backcourt (Francis as a real nice spark off the bench) and you got scorers, rebounders (Besides Curry) and good passers (Besides Curry again.) and guys who can compliment eachother. B/c you got the shooter, penetrator and interior scorer and guys who will do the dirty work. If Curry proves to be too lazy, take him out and put Frye in the starting lineup and at least live with him working his butt off and getting beat.
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9/18/2006  10:22 PM
I disagree, I think that to start off a game, every player should be a threat to score the ball, and curry and frye give us that best chance.

Frye was pretty good in college when used properly, I see no reason to give up on him based on what you saw last year.

I prefer lee coming off the bench and injecting instant energy...but I have to agree with panos that he COULD be a GOOD fit as a starting PF, but Frye is waaaaay better than him.

The fact that 23 players were drafted between lee and frye should tell you something.

when larry brown puts you in the game and says rebounding is all I care about, lee is the man, but in terms of starting, frye hands down.

remember that thing I said about getting a grip?
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9/18/2006  10:37 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

I disagree, I think that to start off a game, every player should be a threat to score the ball, and curry and frye give us that best chance.

Frye was pretty good in college when used properly, I see no reason to give up on him based on what you saw last year.

I prefer lee coming off the bench and injecting instant energy...but I have to agree with panos that he COULD be a GOOD fit as a starting PF, but Frye is waaaaay better than him.

The fact that 23 players were drafted between lee and frye should tell you something.

when larry brown puts you in the game and says rebounding is all I care about, lee is the man, but in terms of starting, frye hands down.

remember that thing I said about getting a grip?

there are 2 sides to the court the team has to play on: offense and defense. The Knicks backcourt is a siv and so the bigs have to be able to defend and rebound. CurryFrye leaves much to be desired. I would rather have balance in terms or defense and rebouding to compliment the O coming from Curry and backcourt.

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Allanfan20
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9/18/2006  10:38 PM
I disagree, I think that to start off a game, every player should be a threat to score the ball, and curry and frye give us that best chance.

Score the ball with no defense and rebounding. With no defense and rebounding, our scoring is kept in check. That spells 23 win seasons.
Frye was pretty good in college when used properly, I see no reason to give up on him based on what you saw last year.

Who said I was giving up on him? I love the guy just as much as the next and think he'll be an all star if he works on it enough. I have faith he can get good on the defense and rebounding, but right now, he sucks in those 2 categories.
I prefer lee coming off the bench and injecting instant energy...but I have to agree with panos that he COULD be a GOOD fit as a starting PF, but Frye is waaaaay better than him.

Based on what? Frye is a way better scorer but Lee is a way better rebounder. Lee is actually better at doing things like passing the ball, believe it or not. They are both kinda crappy on defense. Why am I even comparing the 2 though. Am I not allowed to love them both?

The fact that 23 players were drafted between lee and frye should tell you something.

What does that have to do with anything?
when larry brown puts you in the game and says rebounding is all I care about, lee is the man, but in terms of starting, frye hands down.

Lee is more than a rebounder but read the above post. Plus all I said was that Lee is a better fit for this team starting. If we had a guy like Ben Wallace was on our team and not Curry, then I say start Frye.
remember that thing I said about getting a grip?

No cause I don't care. When I read comments like that, I realize you're immature and maybe barely 8 years old. Is that ignore feature here yet?
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