Is he bringing Elton Brand?

As a coach, this guy is a journeyman...He has never impressed me as a cerebral guy who knew what he was doing...NY is a grand stage to thrust him into the limelight like that expecting results...I think you need someone with a more hardened interior...When he began with the Lakers, he was a goldenboy ala Gruden but fissled quickly..He has never distinguished himself since that time...I'm just tired of retreads being given the job to "let's see what happens"...Next guy on deck should have experience and is proven....No more hit and miss please...


[Edited by - holfresh on 08-21-2006 8:00 PM]

Posted by holfresh:

As a coach, this guy is a journeyman...He has never impressed me as a cerebral guy who knew what he was doing...NY is a grand stage to thrust him into the limelight like that expecting results...I think you need someone with a more hardened interior...When he began with the Lakers, he was a goldenboy ala Gruden but fissled quickly..He has never distinguished himself since that time...I'm just tired of retreads being given the job to "let's see what happens"...Next guy on deck should have experience and is proven....No more hit and miss please...


[Edited by - holfresh on 08-21-2006 8:00 PM]

the whole thing about expereince is true. I think you are seeing the fruits of his experience with the Lac. He's already worked in LA and NY, he's a tough guy, a smart guy and he's a prime time candidate if Isiah doesn't have things go his way.

Doc was starphuched over here a few years back when he was asked to leave orlando.

The guy is not that great. He cashed in his name for the money and is not doing the job. Like Byron Scott, they got game, and a cred, but not the hard workers as coach.

Avery might be different, he is still young and never reached the kind of big name status as the other two.

He just has a year under his belt and never made the huge money that Doc and Byron did in their day. Not huge by todays standards.

I doubt Doc makes it the full 4 years, and he will go back to TV is my guess.

He never moved his family to Boston from orlando! That is not commitment. Not JVG crazy commitment!

Posted by Solace:

I'm with Briggs on this one. I love Mike Dunleavy Sr. I think he's one of the best coaches in the NBA. Very smart coach, and excellent overall basketball knowledge. Having him in NY would be awesome.

Well compared to Isiah, well, yeah. I guess so.

Key is to find not a retread and expect similar results but think outside the box a bit.

Thorn was a league man but also was a GM previously. Only guy I know like that is Stu Jackson.

Isn't Russ Granik stepping down as the no. 2 guy?

Nothing will change until Ownership will look to change.

You need a Peter Uberoth type guy to run the garden, then a president who understands basketball, and a GM who is a hoop junkie. First you need the owner to delegate. IT all got quite silly when Dolan fired Checketts and decided to do the job himself.

Dunleavy has bad baggage himself. His teams self destruct quite often. His time with the Lakers is just bad, I didn't care for how he ended his time in Portland, and his time in Milwaukee could be worst than Thomas time in NY. Looking at it objectively, he had two great seasons with the rest being so so and on the scale of being pretty damn bad. BTW, his time in Mil. he was team president and GM.

somtimes retreads mature and become better with each stop. Joe torre is an example of a not so great manager who put the experiences all together.

Hubie Brown, NEllie, Larry, and even Rod thorn. Thorn was a so-so GM. HE was He Drafted Jordan but that was a no brainer at the no. 3 pick. HE went into the league office for a long time and learned even more.

Stu Jax was young as knick coach, and later as the Grizz first GM. Not easy putting together a expansion team, but I can't say he was any worse than many GMs either. His years spend in the league office plus he background would give him more than ample experience to have seen all the jobs up close and have the perspctive to be a great executive.

Nellie had his ups and downs in his career, as have Karl and Larry.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Nalod:

somtimes retreads mature and become better with each stop. Joe torre is an example of a not so great manager who put the experiences all together.

Hubie Brown, NEllie, Larry, and even Rod thorn. Thorn was a so-so GM. HE was He Drafted Jordan but that was a no brainer at the no. 3 pick. HE went into the league office for a long time and learned even more.

Stu Jax was young as knick coach, and later as the Grizz first GM. Not easy putting together a expansion team, but I can't say he was any worse than many GMs either. His years spend in the league office plus he background would give him more than ample experience to have seen all the jobs up close and have the perspctive to be a great executive.

Nellie had his ups and downs in his career, as have Karl and Larry.

Stu Jackson is a idiot. Plain and simple. Since we are quoting Shaq today, might as well keep it consistent. "Stu Jackson is ruining the game” - quote from Shaq's book signing in 2001. "When you've got a guy like Stu Jackson at the top, it shows why those referees are the way they are. It starts at the top." - quote from Shaq during the 2006 NBA playoffs

But when you get the idiot who runs the referees to work for you its different. Think outside the box here. Sure he might be an ass regarding dishing out punishment, but this dude works for the league and has been a coach and GM.

Send Tapscott to the league and bring him back in 10 years.

Can't keep hiring retreads, we need fresh thinking. Im thinking Stern needs to send a rainmaker from his stable of officers to right this ship. Someone with league clout that Dolan can respect.

Whats good for the Knicks is good for the league.

How we gonna rig the lotto if we don't got a top pick?