What makes us better than the Celtic?

Posted by Allanfan20:

I don't know if making those player to player comparisons are fair, but I'm gonna have to give Green the upside edge over Frye. Yes, Channing is much better now, but Gerald is still a very skilled and super athletic player and b/c of that, he's got the higher upside and only his attitude and work ethic stand in his way so we'll have to see with him.

And even though Francis is the much more explosive and statistically better player, I'm gonna have to give the edge to Wally for 'tude and he's much more so a player we could use as opposed to Francis.

Posted by joec32033:

I personally like Jefferson and Perkins better than Curry and Frye because both are beasts on the block, and both rebound like fiends and can score a little too. IMO, I'd rather take a rebounder and try to make him a scorer than take a scorer like Curry and try to make him a rebounder. I think Rondo is a better pure PG prospect than anyone we have (we have alot of undersized 2 guards who play the point). Green is also a super high potential player that I think if we actually had Woods the comparison would be a push.

Thing is they have alot of young talent that isn't necessarily redundant, but it fits well, and the talent that they do have that is redundant (West, Telfair, Rondo) all make rookie money unlike our redundant talent that ad up to the payrolls of whole teams.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 08-21-2006 10:38 AM]

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by joec32033:

I personally like Jefferson and Perkins better than Curry and Frye because both are beasts on the block, and both rebound like fiends and can score a little too. IMO, I'd rather take a rebounder and try to make him a scorer than take a scorer like Curry and try to make him a rebounder. I think Rondo is a better pure PG prospect than anyone we have (we have alot of undersized 2 guards who play the point). Green is also a super high potential player that I think if we actually had Woods the comparison would be a push.

Thing is they have alot of young talent that isn't necessarily redundant, but it fits well, and the talent that they do have that is redundant (West, Telfair, Rondo) all make rookie money unlike our redundant talent that ad up to the payrolls of whole teams.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 08-21-2006 10:38 AM]

Frye and Curry are SO MUCH better at scoring that it will easily make them the more dominant combo over Jefferson and Perkins. Frye was actually pretty decent rebounding for a rookie. Perkins has been in the league 3 years and Jefferson 2. We'll have to see if Frye improves as he goes along. To me its not like Curry and Frye have no ability to rebound. Its more about focus and technique. Frye needs better technique and strength and Curry just needs more focus. He's had big rebounding games, he just doesn't always focus on his job. True Curry and Frye don't have that natural hunger for the ball, but I think overall they'll be far more productive than Jefferson and Perkins.

As far as Guards go. I think at this time we have the more productive players. Boston has the most upside, but that doesn't really mean much yet. There are some good young teams in this league and I think we're one of them. You also have Orlando, New Orleans, Charlotte, Boston & Toronto.

The fact is the ONLY thing Curry and Frye do is score to this point. Perkins averages 4.3 rebounds after 3 years.(his rebounding jumped 3 rebounds per last year) and his scoring jumped up 3 points per also). Jefferson averaged 4.7 rebounds after 2 years(his rebounding went up almost a rebound per). Curry has averaged 5.1 rebounds per after 5 years. Perkins is developing into a real good shotblocker(he averaged 1.54 per game last year) while Jefferson is developing into a good scorer in the post (8 pts per in the post, not great but he is developing).

I am not arguing that Frye and Curry are better scorers-they are-but Jefferson and Perkins are developing into more well rounded players and a tandem that fits each other very well and compliments each other very nicely.

I think that a Rondo-Green back court will surpass any combo we can put together we can from our young guards. Marbury and Francis are far more productive, but so far nowhere either of them has won-actually when they leave their teams get better.