I really don't think this team can afford to go into camp with Francis on the roster. It's pretty clear that he sulks when "not coddled" by his teammates and coaches. He won't take Marbury's place at the 1, and we can't have him at the 2 (with Marbury at the 1) - he won't come off the bench without sulking. So the question is, what extent would you go to get rid of him?? I don't actually dislike him, but don't see how he can work on this team presently. My only hope/thought wa to trade him to Cleveland with Udoka and a protected #1 for Larry Hughes (falling out of favor there?) and Luke Jackson. I searched through all the teams (on Real GM) and can't make a case for another team possibly taking him. He makes too much money, the teams that trade him seem to get better and he sulks. If a deal can't be completed, I would pay him - but send him away from the team (like what the Bulls did with Tim Thomas) until I could find a taker. So, is there a better deal or option out there? Like to hear your opinions/thoughts

What would you be willing to do to get rid of Francis??

buy him out

if I am Cle I spit out my coffee

They still like Hughes... he was banged up there. Why add a sulking Francis there?

I think Denver would take him in a KMart trade
I think a Boozer and Derrik Fisher package is a possibility
same with Adonal Foyle and Troy Murphy for say Francis

Francis right now is a sulking combo guard with baggage on the books for 3 mores years at $15,$16 and $17mm per. He's got a career of losing BB and quiting on teams and coaches.

What does that usually fetch?

Posted by fishmike:

if I am Cle I spit out my coffee

They still like Hughes... he was banged up there. Why add a sulking Francis there?

I think Denver would take him in a KMart trade
I think a Boozer and Derrik Fisher package is a possibility
same with Adonal Foyle and Troy Murphy for say Francis

Francis right now is a sulking combo guard with baggage on the books for 3 mores years at $15,$16 and $17mm per. He's got a career of losing BB and quiting on teams and coaches.

What does that usually fetch?

Giving min to Lee and Frye is more important than dumping Francis to get PFs we don't need in Murphy and K-Mart. I'd do the Boozer deal though.

If the Knicks could get Hughes for Francis that would be great for the Knicks. Hughes plays defensive and he rebounds and is still young. He has had injuries in the past but he has played with guards that dominate the ball arenas and iverson and James. Hughes had a rough year last year getting hurt and losing his younger brother to a heart ailment. Would love to see LH in a Knicks uniform

Say goodbye to my left testicle, the right one is dominant.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 08-15-2006 4:54 PM]

Posted by joec32033:

Say goodbye to my left testicle, the right one is dominant.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 08-15-2006 4:54 PM]

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Posted by Bonn1997:

Kmart brings somthing we don't have.

I assume you mean a microfracture repaired knee. I can't think of what else he brings. We haven't had one of those since Penny was traded though. The organization is long overdue.

Hmmm we need more microfracture repaired knees. If we get the entire set of 12, we can do the mail away for the ultra rare titanium-reinforced knee that sells for big buxx on eBay.

Posted by purple012870:

Earl was smooth & had well-schooled moves....but wasn't super quick.

go do 50 pushups.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Kmart brings somthing we don't have.

I assume you mean a microfracture repaired knee. I can't think of what else he brings. We haven't had one of those since Penny was traded though. The organization is long overdue.

Hmmm we need more microfracture repaired knees. If we get the entire set of 12, we can do the mail away for the ultra rare titanium-reinforced knee that sells for big buxx on eBay.

LOL!

Kmart had arthroscopic surgery, that kind of surgery isnt as career altering microfracture. and as for francis, Im so desperate to get rid of him that Id trade him for an expiring contract and a young athletic SF.

[Edited by - slimpack on 08-16-2006 01:20 AM]