Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

bRIGGS, ive honestly had enough with your rants, let the season play out before you predict any of this occuring, i mad a thread talking about lets not get carried away thinking we're a good team, but your doing the opposite, and i guarantee you wouldnt be able to get past steph and francis in a pickup game.

You question fryes toughness when last year over and over again the man would play it up with the big men of other teams and wasnt afraid of contact...

im tired of hearing ur crap because it spews negativity, im on the fence this year concerning this year and im not predicting good or bad, before you come with your outlandish conclusions why dont we let the team play one game before seeing if any of your "prophecies" occur

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by NYKniCksFan87:

bRIGGS, ive honestly had enough with your rants, let the season play out before you predict any of this occuring, i mad a thread talking about lets not get carried away thinking we're a good team, but your doing the opposite, and i guarantee you wouldnt be able to get past steph and francis in a pickup game.

You question fryes toughness when last year over and over again the man would play it up with the big men of other teams and wasnt afraid of contact...

im tired of hearing ur crap because it spews negativity, im on the fence this year concerning this year and im not predicting good or bad, before you come with your outlandish conclusions why dont we let the team play one game before seeing if any of your "prophecies" occur

I'll rant until I see definitive changes in this organization. This is a team that is full of excuses and I don't come from that school. I keep hearing from people--don't worry about the money, it isn't yours. Well, yeah it is a key indicator that things are going as poorly as can be. There are two sport teams that have led the league in payroll and came up with such drastically poor results--the two teams owned by Cablevision. The Knicks don't have a Jagr and they also don't have a Lundquist to change things around. They don't have that one player, or combination of guys that I see chnaging things around any time soon. With the 500 MILLION $ Isiah has spent, the unbelievable advantagehe has on every team in this league, I'll gripe, btch and moan until I see something in terms of material change.
Please just skip my posts.

Posted by 4949:

Okay Crzymdups, very well said. So our only problems that have questions on them is our turnover ratio, our defensive along with shot blociking and maybe an improvement on rebouding. At least we have something to start with. If we can accmplish just one of those things, then we'll be in good shape.

I think the turnovers problem was caused by two things - 10 new players last year and Larry Brown's offense. When Marbury was trying to run Larry's offense, it was disastrous. When he played his game, we had around 10 or 12 turnovers. This year we have only three new players and hopefully a little more continuity.

The shotblocking is still a problem, obviously, but if Frye and Jefferies are our starting forwards that's two guys who can block some shots. Balkman and Curry are also shotblockers. I think that area can improve slightly this year with the addition of Balkman and Jefferies and more PT for Frye. Though, it's clearly not an area of strength, I think Frye, Jefferies and Balkman will block more shots than Jalen, Mo Taylor and Malik. Balkman and Jefferies are two guys who in 30mpg are going to get you at least one block and one steal apiece.

To me, the big issue with the team is still designing an offense and defense that allow Frye and Curry to be on the floor together. We have to determine if those two can play together. I said that at the beginning of last season and we rarely saw them on the floor together. I hope we'll see some zone defense to take advantage of our length and speed and guys like Jefferies and Balkman who can create problems in a zone. Crawford and Nate, to me, seem like they would be suited to a zone. I hope we use our depth and team speed to run other teams ragged. We'll see.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 06-08-2006 3:21 PM]

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by 4949:

Okay Crzymdups, very well said. So our only problems that have questions on them is our turnover ratio, our defensive along with shot blociking and maybe an improvement on rebouding. At least we have something to start with. If we can accmplish just one of those things, then we'll be in good shape.

I think the turnovers problem was caused by two things - 10 new players last year and Larry Brown's offense. When Marbury was trying to run Larry's offense, it was disastrous. When he played his game, we had around 10 or 12 turnovers. This year we have only three new players and hopefully a little more continuity.

The shotblocking is still a problem, obviously, but if Frye and Jefferies are our starting forwards that's two guys who can block some shots. Balkman and Curry are also shotblockers. I think that area can improve slightly this year with the addition of Balkman and Jefferies and more PT for Frye. Though, it's clearly not an area of strength, I think Frye, Jefferies and Balkman will block more shots than Jalen, Mo Taylor and Malik. Balkman and Jefferies are two guys who in 30mpg are going to get you at least one block and one steal apiece.

To me, the big issue with the team is still designing an offense and defense that allow Frye and Curry to be on the floor together. We have to determine if those two can play together. I said that at the beginning of last season and we rarely saw them on the floor together. I hope we'll see some zone defense to take advantage of our length and speed and guys like Jefferies and Balkman who can create problems in a zone. Crawford and Nate, to me, seem like they would be suited to a zone. I hope we use our depth and team speed to run other teams ragged. We'll see.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 06-08-2006 3:21 PM]

I can't see Jalen, Mo and Taylor playing more minutes then the guys you just mentioned. I definately see Curry and Frye on the floor together many times this coming season. The nice thing about this year, that I can see so far is, we have many more options out there, many more weapons and they will all be hungry, looking for those minutes to prove. This is the nice thing. They all will want to prove themselves, because they are young and they know the opportunities exist to build on, when the established contract times come a knocking on the door for each of them. The more I look at the possibilities here, the less Marbury is going to be a factor on this team, regarding personal problems. I think this year, certain truths are going to be exposed and if IT is real smart, he will deal with those immediately, because he knows it's his neck this year. But I'm thinking that it may not get to that point, but we'll all have to wait and see. I think it's fair to say that there will be a lot more consistency this year, because people will have a lot more opportunity to establish themselves consistently. How do you know this? IT's style is the opposite of what Brown goes about doing and that is 'sacrificing the first season' to work out the bugs. I'm willing say that I think Brown worked out the bugs, but at his own cost and now Zeke should be able to run a smooth transition with this team, excuse me, this young experienced team, as Knick players. That may sound a little too optimistic, but I can't see too much wrong at this point, now that things have changed. We got to give them benefit of the doubt.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by Bonn1997:

We have to do more starphucking to satisfy some fans. More steve Francis's. More Darius Miles's.

yeah, the fact that Briggs basically demanded the Steve Francis trade and said this organization was a bunch of idiots if they didn't get him and then hated the Jefferies trade for its lack of fiscal sanity doesn't add up to me.

Now Briggs wants Darius Miles? Darius and Steve? Wow. It'd be hard to think of two bigger headcases. At some point you have to factor in chemistry/personalities. Aside from Francis and Mo Taylor, I like the mix of guys we have on this team.