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BRIGGS
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7/9/2006  5:15 PM
yes I know one was taken 58 and the other 20, but i think--atleast from my observations of both players thaat players like Pinnock or hassan Adams are superior players both ways to balkman---so why did these players go thirty spots below them? Where are you evaluating Balkmans superiority to Pinnock?
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7/9/2006  5:21 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

yes I know one was taken 58 and the other 20, but i think--atleast from my observations of both players thaat players like Pinnock or hassan Adams are superior players both ways to balkman---so why did these players go thirty spots below them? Where are you evaluating Balkmans superiority to Pinnock?

that is very funny you mentioned Pinnock. I went to GW and got watch him play alot. Infact Ive played pick up games with the guy before. I wish the knicks got a second round pick to take the guy. Balkman is a better defender than Pinnock I can tell you that right now. But offensively its not even close. Dont get me wrong Pinnock can get you steals. But it looks like Balkman can do that too and also block shots. Pinnock to me is exactly like Marquis Daniels, but with a better jumper.
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7/9/2006  5:23 PM
Briggs- your missing the point. Its not about who is more talented, its about who is a better fir for what the Knicks need.

Put Adams on this team and he is will be the 6th undersized 2 guard who is not a good shooter, can't create his own shot off the dribble, and does not make anyone around him better. Adams is great athlete, but he wouldn't fill any needs on this team.

Balkman reminds me of Stacey Augmon. Wirey strong, long arms and plays bigger than his listed size. Yes he needs to add at least 12-15 pounds of muscle evetually, but like Relando Blackman said, "Blakmna is the type of player that allows his teamamtes to be great..." Can't say the same about Adams or Pinnock.
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7/9/2006  5:23 PM
Posted by MisterClutch:
Posted by BRIGGS:

yes I know one was taken 58 and the other 20, but i think--atleast from my observations of both players thaat players like Pinnock or hassan Adams are superior players both ways to balkman---so why did these players go thirty spots below them? Where are you evaluating Balkmans superiority to Pinnock?

that is very funny you mentioned Pinnock. I went to GW and got watch him play alot. Infact Ive played pick up games with the guy before. I wish the knicks got a second round pick to take the guy. Balkman is a better defender than Pinnock I can tell you that right now. But offensively its not even close. Dont get me wrong Pinnock can get you steals. But it looks like Balkman can do that too and also block shots. Pinnock to me is exactly like Marquis Daniels, but with a better jumper.

Were did you play pick-up with him?
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7/9/2006  5:25 PM
im trying to figure out the rationale for 20. Guys like admunson Pinnock hassan Adams etc.. 50+ in the draft pinnock is a tough 2 guard defender who can rebound. yes balkman is a better shot blocker but how many shots is a 6-6 guy going to get in the nba? wouldnt admunson make a little more sense since he actually has 3 size?
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7/9/2006  5:25 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by MisterClutch:
Posted by BRIGGS:

yes I know one was taken 58 and the other 20, but i think--atleast from my observations of both players thaat players like Pinnock or hassan Adams are superior players both ways to balkman---so why did these players go thirty spots below them? Where are you evaluating Balkmans superiority to Pinnock?

that is very funny you mentioned Pinnock. I went to GW and got watch him play alot. Infact Ive played pick up games with the guy before. I wish the knicks got a second round pick to take the guy. Balkman is a better defender than Pinnock I can tell you that right now. But offensively its not even close. Dont get me wrong Pinnock can get you steals. But it looks like Balkman can do that too and also block shots. Pinnock to me is exactly like Marquis Daniels, but with a better jumper.

Were did you play pick-up with him?


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7/9/2006  5:30 PM
damn briggs, why are you stressing this so much?....its like u have a personal vendetta against balkman...

why cant u wait til the season starts and we'll see 1st hand what happens
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7/9/2006  5:33 PM
I got to agree. Let's see him play pro first.
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7/9/2006  5:34 PM
Gerald Wallace ( 6'7 average 2.09 blks last year). Not saying he is as good Wallace but both are about the same size.

Admunson is a tweener in the molds of David Lee but not as good. Balkman is a better option at the three than Admunson. Of course he needs to add about 10 pounds but that'll come.
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7/9/2006  5:38 PM
Really I appreciat your input to the forum on many occasions but how often do you want to make us all aware of the fact that you dont understand the pick...

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7/9/2006  5:41 PM
The one thing I don't get sometimes from this board is (unless you use quoats) 'who exactly are you talking to here'?
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7/9/2006  5:43 PM
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Gerald Wallace ( 6'7 average 2.09 blks last year). Not saying he is as good Wallace but both are about the same size.

Admunson is a tweener in the molds of David Lee but not as good. Balkman is a better option at the three than Admunson. Of course he needs to add about 10 pounds but that'll come.


GWallace has a running 42 inch vertical jump. Hes not in the same athletiscm class--wallace is of the highest caliber athletiscm in the world--this guy is a full tier below that


why is balkman a better 3 option hes 6-6 206 admunson is 6-8 222 stronger better athlete better scorer rebounder is 6-6 206 even a 3 in the nba?
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7/9/2006  5:46 PM
Posted by 4949:

The one thing I don't get sometimes from this board is (unless you use quoats) 'who exactly are you talking to here'?

Im talking to isiah thomas--i dont care if people here dont understand but its quite clear--why did a 23 win team take a player at 20 who shouldve or likely wouldve gone 40 to undrafted? i want to see if IT had balkman rated higher than Marcus Williams he knows about this forum i want to see if he has the cahones to explain it
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7/9/2006  5:51 PM
That would' be cool if he did actually come here and explain both moves. I'd like to know also, and it doesn't mean I think he was wrong in his picks, I mean what do you expect at #20 and #29?
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7/9/2006  5:51 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by 4949:

The one thing I don't get sometimes from this board is (unless you use quoats) 'who exactly are you talking to here'?

Im talking to isiah thomas--i dont care if people here dont understand but its quite clear--why did a 23 win team take a player at 20 who shouldve or likely wouldve gone 40 to undrafted? i want to see if IT had balkman rated higher than Marcus Williams he knows about this forum i want to see if he has the cahones to explain it

Ok I hate to tell you Briggs but you will not get an answer by Isiah or any other Knicks rep.!!! Sorry to provide the unpopular grip of reality!!!
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7/9/2006  5:54 PM
Like I said, Admunson is a tweener. He'll have a heclk of a time trying to guard out on the perimeter similar to Lee's problems last year.

As bad as some might think Balkman is offensively, Admunson is just as bad if not worse. At least Balman can out the ball on the floor and initiate a break. Admunson can't dribble to save his life, can't shoot, doesn't have the same game recognition as Balkman in terms of passing (IOW Admunson is a horrible passer)

Again, as I said, Balkman has a similar build to Stacy Augmon when he entered the league. He definitely needs to add about 10-15 pounds. But in his favor is the fact that he plays bigger than 6'6 and a half because of his athleticism and long arms....
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Posted by bigbeast:

Like I said, Admunson is a tweener. He'll have a heclk of a time trying to guard out on the perimeter similar to Lee's problems last year.

As bad as some might think Balkman is offensively, Admunson is just as bad if not worse. At least Balman can put the ball on the floor and initiate a break. Admunson can't dribble to save his life, can't shoot, doesn't have the same game recognition as Balkman in terms of passing (IOW Admunson is a horrible passer)

Again, as I said, Balkman has a similar build to Stacy Augmon when he entered the league. He definitely needs to add about 10-15 pounds. But in his favor is the fact that he plays bigger than 6'6 and a half because of his athleticism and long arms....

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7/9/2006  6:06 PM
What's Isiah's user name?
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7/9/2006  6:18 PM
Posted by Rich:

What's Isiah's user name?

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7/9/2006  6:29 PM
dude... briggs... u usually have some good pointd but u need to get over this
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