I'm not gonna go that crazy about Marcus Williams, although I probably would've taken him. Even if we didn't keep him, he would've been a nice chip for a deal. You can tell they at least gave it some thought (they let the clock run all the way down before Stern came out). Really thought they were gonna take him, especially since we know Zeke likes to compile assets. Nice for NJ. Kidd won't be around forever...

I wanted Maurice Ager at 20 then Justin Williams at 29. I would've been completely happy with that. I actually like Ager better than Crawford and Q-Rich - watch, he'll be a better/more consistent scoring off-guard than both of those guys. He could've helped. Dallas got a steal. And they had a shot to get a player that plays very similar to Hilton Armstrong in Justin Williams. I thought Isiah wanted a shotblocker??? And I agreed with him. Williams is the best shotblocker in the draft, plus he put up 11 & 11 last year. I know he played in Wyoming, but the shotblocking/weakside defense part of his game definitely looks NBA ready at least. He would've given us the shotblocking element that Curry and Frye probably will never supply on a consistent basis. Plus he supposedly had great workouts in Orlando. Could've then maybe opened up the posibility of packaging Lee if the right deal came around. Whatever man...

This dude Balkman might not even be worthy of making the club. I like Collins a little bit but not better than Maurice Ager. Where the hell does he fit in on the Knicks??? Ager's the type of guy you make room for when you look at the Knicks current roster IMO, but Collins? As of 11:37 ET we haven't even made a trade to trim some of this dead weight off the roster. Very disappointed night guys....

Clippers and Nets could've gotten steals at 52 & 54 with Guillermo Diaz and Hassan Adams BTW.

Posted by Finestrg:

I'm not gonna go that crazy about Marcus Williams, although I probably would've taken him. Even if we didn't keep him, he would've been a nice chip for a deal. You can tell they at least gave it some thought (they let the clock run all the way down before Stern came out). Really thought they were gonna take him, especially since we know Zeke likes to compile assets. Nice for NJ. Kidd won't be around forever...

I wanted Maurice Ager at 20 then Justin Williams at 29. I would've been completely happy with that. I actually like Ager better than Crawford and Q-Rich - watch, he'll be a better/more consistent scoring off-guard than both of those guys. He could've helped. Dallas got a steal. And they had a shot to get a player that plays very similar to Hilton Armstrong in Justin Williams. I thought Isiah wanted a shotblocker??? And I agreed with him. Williams is the best shotblocker in the draft, plus he put up 11 & 11 last year. I know he played in Wyoming, but the shotblocking/weakside defense part of his game definitely looks NBA ready at least. He would've given us the shotblocking element that Curry and Frye probably will never supply on a consistent basis. Plus he supposedly had great workouts in Orlando. Could've then maybe opened up the posibility of packaging Lee if the right deal came around. Whatever man...

This dude Balkman might not even be worthy of making the club. I like Collins a little bit but not better than Maurice Ager. Where the hell does he fit in on the Knicks??? Ager's the type of guy you make room for when you look at the Knicks current roster IMO, but Collins? As of 11:37 ET we haven't even made a trade to trim some of this dead weight off the roster. Very disappointed night guys....

Clippers and Nets could've gotten steals at 52 & 54 with Guillermo Diaz and Hassan Adams BTW.

Well we still have a shot at Justin Williams - he went undrafted. He could help.

Just remember that none of you guys knows more than Isiah does when it comes to these players. Isiah has a great track record of indentifying talent. In addition this was about making this team make sense. Collins allows for us to have Steph and Nate be the offensive guards they are, without leaving us with too small a backcourt and not enough D. Balkman is that Defensive Swingman we've needed desparately. How many times did we get killed by the other teams SG or SF. Well that's his specialty. So why be so pessimistic about such solid picks.

I know nothing about Balkman. He could be Rodman he could be a bumb. I will give it time to see, because I really have no choice. Isiah does have a good track record when it comes to the draft so I will give him the benefit of the doubt. For now.

Bip and TMS are obvisouly LB lovers.

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by nixluva:

Just remember that none of you guys knows more than Isiah does when it comes to these players. Isiah has a great track record of indentifying talent. In addition this was about making this team make sense. Collins allows for us to have Steph and Nate be the offensive guards they are, without leaving us with too small a backcourt and not enough D. Balkman is that Defensive Swingman we've needed desparately. How many times did we get killed by the other teams SG or SF. Well that's his specialty. So why be so pessimistic about such solid picks.

The blind leading the blind.

What does this mean exactly? Was there something wrong with my logic? If so please explain to me where that is? I still haven't seen any good arguments against what Isiah has done, other than the idea that he took Balkman too early. In terms of building a team these picks made PERFECT SENSE. Everyone on the team can't be scorers. You need guys who don't need or demand the ball to be effective. So when Isiah actually does this all you guys can do is find some weak argument to pick at.

People doubted Frye and he proved them wrong. No one thought much of David Lee and he's proven to be a solid pick. Let's be a bit more patient and see how this all shakes out.

He better be significantly better Marcus Williams

i don't jock the draft as much as some of you as it's been my experience that if you aren't a lotto pick who cares...suprised by zeke's selection of Lee and Ariza, as they were better than expected.

One thing I did know going in, we needed defense and that's what we drafted.

Filling needs is a good thing, accumulating assets (as we have done in the previous 2.5 years) can only last so long.

no doubt his veteran personnel moves have left alot to be desired, but we can't deny he's had a good eye for young talent... in an ideal world, he would be limited to a scouting role in the draft & developmental league FA signings only & another GM w/better past history of making wise decisions to keep the payroll down to manageable levels be brought in to handle the main personnel moves... but it is what it is i guess... hoping for the best this year, but no way was i optimistic that something miraculous was going to happen regardless of who Isiah took in the draft this year.

Posted by MS:

Camby at two? That draft had kobe, allen, marbury, peja a ton of players that all turned into all-stars.....all he does is draft athletes he has drafted one allstar in his career.....

It's true, picking camby that high, even though he was great in college and hyped up a lot, is pretty bad considering the better players he passed on like kobe nash ray allen, etc. Even the stoudamire pick wasn't that great - he passed on guys like ratliff and finley, but that draft was pretty weak after damon so it's understandable.

actually, techcnically shandon anderson went to the finals before camby, and he was drafted in 1996