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djsunyc
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"If I can say there has been significant progress after one year, he'll be here. If we can't say that, he will not be here." what does dolan mean by significant progress? does it even matter b/c if the team fails, will isiah be able to kiss enough ass to stick around?
30-35 wins
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Rich
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6/26/2006  10:27 PM
Barring an injury, 35-40 wins, and a clear demonstration that Curry and Frye are developing.
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6/26/2006  10:29 PM
Progress to me? 40 win minimum. Progress to Dolan? Drawing more money in sales.
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6/26/2006  10:29 PM
A team with an identity,the acquisition of players that fit the identity. and significant progress in the wins department 10-15 wins.
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6/26/2006  10:31 PM
between 35 - 40 wins. I am looking at 37 as my benchmark. And if we make it to the playoffs next year, I expect that to be significant progress by anybody's standard.
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6/26/2006  10:36 PM
As close to .500 as possible, and a playoff berth seems like a bare minumum level of significant progress to me.
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6/26/2006  10:39 PM
I think the benchmark is 33 wins or better. 33 is the number of wins the prior season. 40 wins would be signigant progress.
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realhiphop
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6/26/2006  10:41 PM
You know what, I changed my mind. Anything less than a .500 record is a failure. Isiah brought in all of these guys. He obviously believes in them. If a team fully constructed by Isiah to follow his vision of what a team "should be", playing under him can't be more than a .500 team than not only is Isiah a failure as a coach, but he's also a bigger failure as a GM.
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6/26/2006  10:43 PM
Dolan clearly means he's expecting the team to make the playoffs this year at the very least... any owner who's spent as much $ as he has over the past several seasons can't expect any less... i can't say as i really blame him in that regard, although i wish he would have a more realistic vision to build this team over the longterm to be a champion instead of a playoff contender year after year.
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6/26/2006  11:25 PM
probably 35-40 would get it done. But hopefully he'll want to see Frye, Curry, Nate, Craw, Lee etc developing cohesion and an identity.
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6/26/2006  11:26 PM
I voted playoffs because you don't have what I would actually consider fo Isiah to stick around.

Based on this roster with the redunadant talent he has, and the big names and bigger contracts, 43-45 wins minimum.
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6/26/2006  11:27 PM
If this team isn't in the playoffs and playing on the defensive end then I want Isiah gone along with Mills and 3 new guys in here that have a track-record of building a team.
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6/26/2006  11:47 PM
Maybe Dolan just really said this to appease Isiah haters, Brown supporters and backlash in general.

I think unless the team is absolutely AWEFUL next year, Isiah won't be going anywhere.

The Knicks with no coach could have won 35 games last year if there was some consistency and I think next season with Isiah they will do 40.
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6/26/2006  11:52 PM
Posted by Rich:

Barring an injury, 35-40 wins, and a clear demonstration that Curry and Frye are developing.

I'd throw in nate, Lee and Crawford as well.

I also argee with Stevo Reno............
Posted by Stevo718:

Maybe Dolan just really said this to appease Isiah haters, Brown supporters and backlash in general.

I think unless the team is absolutely AWEFUL next year, Isiah won't be going anywhere.

The Knicks with no coach could have won 35 games last year if there was some consistency and I think next season with Isiah they will do 40.


[Edited by - Anji on 06-26-2006 11:56 PM]
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6/27/2006  12:35 AM
Significant progress:

Seeing guys make a commitment on both ends of the court and off the court to better themselves for the sake of the Knicks. Seeing the young guys improve their games and showing something that we can finally build around. If this is shown, the wins will start coming a little bit more and closer in between.
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6/27/2006  12:48 AM
making the parts of the team make sense together. developing some of our youth. giving the team some sort of identity. 35-40 wins and all that stuff was what we were asking from Brown, Isiah should be no different.
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Allanfan20
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6/27/2006  12:49 AM
I could care less about that kind of statistic (The wins) I like Dolans goal. Build a championship team.
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Rich
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6/27/2006  12:50 AM
If Isiah is ultimately fired, Mills better not pick his successor.
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6/27/2006  12:51 AM
Posted by Rich:

If Isiah is ultimately fired, Mills better not pick his successor.

amen.
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6/27/2006  8:23 AM
We're talking about Dolan means by significant progress right? Then its definitely playoffs. For Dolan, significant progress= more profits.
djsunyc
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6/27/2006  11:33 AM
dolan said he didn't expect the team to make the playoffs.

so what the hell is "significant progress"? 35 wins? if 35 wins gets isiah an extension, we're in serious trouble.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-27-2006 11:34 AM]
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