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Drama free. Season starts now....what should our Coach/GM do with the roster to improve and win?
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EnySpree
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6/24/2006  12:44 AM
No more Brown. No more drama. Forget the soap opera for a sec. Just talk about how to improve the roster.

What can the Knicks do realistically to improve the team?

Anybody think the Knicks have a shot at Shawn Marion? Not to play power fwd but to be the small fwd. Maybe Stephen Jackson? Rashard Lewis may be too soft and Al Harrington may be too arrogant and expensive. Corey Maggette is out there too.

With Channing, Curry, Marbs and Craw as the core.....on paper adding a bonified scorer at the 3 spot could work wonders. Marion would be a pipe dream but Stephen Jax could be the steady vet they need to keep things together.

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6/24/2006  1:10 AM
If Rashard Lewis is available, I would want him at the 3, shooting as many 3pts as they can give him opportunities. They need a 3pt shooter to spread the floor. Otherwise, teams can collapse on them...

Jalen Rose, Nate Robinson, #20 for Rashard Lewis and Earl Watson? If Seattle is blwing up they do it, otherwise, no chance. Possibly find a team that is looking for and expiring contract...

Marbs/Francis/Lewis/Lee/Frye?

I don't like this "running" lineup...I need a defensive center who can run... like...umm...Amare Stoudemire...but that can't happen so? Anybody to draft? Anybody?

Kmart/Nene instead? Francis for Kmart +/- players to make it work...can we get Nene back? Will Kmart be the Kmart of NJ or the Kmart of Denver? I'll take the NJ version. I will give up Crawford if they will take Malik Rose or Jerome James.

Marbs/Craw/Lewis/Kmart/Nene
Watson/Qrich/Lee/Frye/Curry

Or, make no trades, re-sign Woods using part of the MLE.
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McK1
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6/24/2006  1:14 AM
get somebody at the 3 like Marquinhos who is a good ballhandler and willing passer.

contact somebody who has coached the Triangle and add them to the staff.

if we're still starphuching Craw + for Larry Hughes

and contact Karl and the Nuggz about whether he's interested in coaching Steph or Steve

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-24-2006 01:15 AM]
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6/24/2006  1:15 AM
i like the seattle idea, a 3 like lewis who just pops j's would be ideal since it is presumed that marbury and francis are going to be cutting up defenses and creating a lot of ball movement.

isiah never got along with rose in indiana, and he's tradeable. plus, they have 12 players under contract already, i can't imagine adding 2 more draft picks will help. rose, packaged with 1 or both the picks, should merit something in return.
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6/24/2006  2:00 PM
HAHA!!! Drama free...
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6/24/2006  3:10 PM
I don't think the Knicks will ever be drama free. But what the NYK GM/Coach needs to do is define roles for his players. Establish Curry and Frye as the teams future and have Crawford play like he did at the end of the season. HAve Marbury play like he did when he first got here. People for get Marbury had some monster games when he got to the Knicks. I still vaguely remember his 40 and 17 performance. This might sound a little crazy but reduce some of the talent and bring in role players. Francis and Q-Rich should be gone, reduce clutter at that position. Q-Rich is not a sf move him. Rose is an expiring contract the kNicks should keep him a let him expire (his contract)Mo Taylor another expiring contract should be allowed to expire more reduction of clutter if not just trade him for a second round future pick.
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6/24/2006  4:35 PM
When I said drama free I meant there should be no more of the extra yapping to the media like with the last coach.

Knicks definately need a true small fwd. Woods showed tons of signs. I think he can be just as good as some of the players mentioned if he got the chance.

A lot of the problems have to do with roles. Yeah the knicks still have to get better but a lot of it has to be coming from the coach. I trust the game plan and roles will be defined by training camp.

Its all on isiah. I believe that he will try to make his moves sooner rather than later so he can consentrate on his coaching duties around training camp.
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6/24/2006  4:39 PM
yep no more yapping to the media. Instead we're going to hear about how much of a success it was to win 38games and get swept in the playoffs with a $130mm payroll



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 06-24-2006 4:41 PM]
McK1
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6/24/2006  5:40 PM
besides the dust around Brown settling, every loss = chances of a better pick for the Bulls

Larry Brown's mouth was the least of the points of tension created by Thomas' GMing..



[Edited by - McK1 on 06-24-2006 5:41 PM]
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6/24/2006  6:36 PM
Step 1- move either Francis or Marbury
Step 2- Add Shooting Guard
Step 3- Add a possible strong rebounder/defender to frontcourt

You have the MLE, expiring deals & two picks.

The first principal should be get younger & get cheaper. Under no circumstances (well, maybe if you were getting a talent like a Lebron) do we add to long term salary.
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6/24/2006  6:50 PM
Curry & Frye will play about 30 mins per game.

Curry = 16pts 6rebs
Frye = 16pts 5rebs
Marbs = 21pts 10ast
Craw = 14pts 4ast 4rebs
Isiah Thomas will lead us back to the playoffs in 2006 !!!
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6/24/2006  7:14 PM
He should kill himself. It would greatly improve the future outlook of the franchise.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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6/24/2006  7:28 PM
Cory Magette is always hurt.
Shawn Marion is a player i do not want on my team. He is very limited offensively, and will be exposed if he isn't in a run and gun system.

Stephen Jackson I could definitely deal with.
Rashard Lewis is who I would prefer.
simrud
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6/24/2006  7:35 PM
haha

Ofcousre we don't need the likes of Marion. We got Woods who is better then KG! And Frye is the next Duncan along with the next Shaq, Curry. Too funny.

Sometimes I wonder about some Knick fans, maybe we deserve this team.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
EnySpree
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6/24/2006  8:14 PM
Posted by simrud:

haha

Ofcousre we don't need the likes of Marion. We got Woods who is better then KG! And Frye is the next Duncan along with the next Shaq, Curry. Too funny.

Sometimes I wonder about some Knick fans, maybe we deserve this team.

Sometimes I wonder what type of fan you and some of the other doomsday allience are.

If the knicks win you guys will be on the bandwagon of I told you so's and I always said.

Right now the knicks are moving forward. Yes 38 wins would be an improvement. The knicks should be a step ahead right now but last season the knicks took 5 steps back.

You should go post on selltheknicks.com(if they even have forum, I wouldn't know)
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6/24/2006  8:24 PM
Trades proposals are really too speculative, so:

Decide whether Marbury, Francis, or Craw is your primary PG, and convince them to prioritze distributing the ball; draft a rebounding foward to play next to Curry and Frye; and draft another outside shooter to stretch the defense.
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6/24/2006  8:47 PM
Marbury's the only good passer of those three (look at assists and turnovers). With Isiah as coach, I'm willing to give Marbury one more chance. Craw showed enough in the final few weeks to get one more chance from too. Francis needs to be traded.
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6/24/2006  9:06 PM
The Knicks have ALWAYS been about drama

Only the names have been changed to protect the guilty

once a knick always a knick
Rich
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6/24/2006  9:10 PM
I'll pretend that I don't know how to use the quote feature.

Q: Where was the drama when the Knicks last won a championship?
A: There wasn't any.
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6/24/2006  9:20 PM
Posted by OngBok:

Curry & Frye will play about 30 mins per game.

Curry = 16pts 6rebs
Frye = 16pts 5rebs
Marbs = 21pts 10ast
Craw = 14pts 4ast 4rebs

NAH your Curry and Frye predictions are too low. Curry = 18/8 and Frye 16/8 Both players will play more minutes under IT and this will allow them to achieve better #'s. Curry has been working with Aguirre already and I hear Frye is working out as well. I think they'll both benefit from a more up tempo offense, where the number of possessions per game increase. This is a part of the thing that some people overlook about playing uptempo and not running so much clock. Its not wild anything goes offense which leads to other teams fastbreaks. Its just quick hitting when the opportunity presents itself. You don't waste time on every single possession. When you attack, attack all the time, it puts pressure on the other defense. It also means that even tho Steph, Jamal etc. may take more shots there will still be plenty of possessions for everyone to be involved.

I'd like to see IT add a two way SF and a big guard with a deep threat as well as a midrange shot. A shotblocker would also be nice. We need to either sit or cut James, Mo, Malik and Jalen. Shorten the rotation to the guys who fit our new approach, which I fully expect to be uptempo.
Drama free. Season starts now....what should our Coach/GM do with the roster to improve and win?

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