Newsday - The Knicks reportedly are not planning on paying Larry Brown the more than $40 million remaining on his contract.

Citing a clause in Brown's contract that requires him to follow club policy, the Knicks will seek arbitration with David Stern. They believe he acted beyond the perameters of his coaching position in attempting to make trades and also violated media policy by talking to reporters outside the presence of a team public relations person.

I knew something was brewing. They let Brown do his thing and they silently built a file on him to try to get out of paying him.

Now we can focus on the Knicks and not Brown. As of right now **** Brown and long live the Knicks.

We are now stepping away from the crossroads this franchise was camping out at.....time to build us our own road to a championship. On paper we are close....if anything Brown's fiasco let all the ***** players show their faces....Isiah saw this and will make moves to clean up.

If you don't believe that you a dumb ass.

The Knicks are starting down a slippery slope IMO. I doubt they will end up winning this one...and even if they do, will come out looking bad.

I understand that the average Knick fan doesn't have a clue about the game. All they want is to see the team win. No other city puts their team through what the Knicks have been through. Dolan has spent alot of money trying to make the Knicks a winner. They have learned alot of lessons that they can't buy a championship like Steinbrenner.

Who cares about fans that will join the selltheknicks protest? Half of those mofo's fall in the category of people that have no clue about the game of basketball.

Who cares about Isiah really? Who cares abotu any of the players? Not me.....it's the uniform and the building. No way the Knicks can sell the Knicks, fire all the execs, and trade every player.

What they did was fire the person that truly didn't do his job....that was Brown....now Isiah has to trade all the bitches or he will be fired....then the the cycle will continue......till we finally win again....

Posted by Andrew:

The Knicks are starting down a slippery slope IMO. I doubt they will end up winning this one...and even if they do, will come out looking bad.

This is SO true.....I mean what high profile coach is gonna want to have to worry about something like this.....granted LB may be considered the extreme, but seriously...starting down this road is bad....I mean what is considered "breach of contract" or overstepping your limits?

I mean a guy could complain about Phil Jackson's meditating as trying to preach a certain religion.-It may be a stretch but it is possible.
I'm sure Kwame would love to complain about Phil calling him a...um....."kitty"..
I find it hard LB is the only high profile coach that would talk about trades to other coaches or GM's.
Now talking to the press w/o a public relations guy is a fireable offense? What about talking to the press after a closed practice when no PR officials are present? Can a coach now be fired if he tells a close freind he is not happy and then that friend is a source of Vescey?

Am I saying this will happen? No, but I am saying that alot of coaches would take into consideration the the Knicks are willing, able, and ready to do something like this if they want to.

Posted by EnySpree:

Back to the title post....

How ill is Dolan that he built a case on how to get out of paying Brown? If he gets away with it then Dolan is the man.

Back to talking about basketball.

Bro, it's funny how Larry is a snake for doing some of this stuff, but Dolan is the man for building a file behind Larry's back to get out of paying his contract. And that he held Larry just long enough for coaching vacancies to be filled. That's not class, that's bush league, pompous stuff on Dolan's part.

seems you have it all figured out spree.

the building and the name on the jersey don't play the games

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-22-2006 8:53 PM]

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-22-2006 8:57 PM]

Larry may well have breached his contract, but I doubt that Stern or a court would view his conduct as a material breach, which is what would be necessary for the Knicks to rescind their contractual obligations, i.e., pay him.

They may, however, be able to reduce the amount of the remaining $40 million that they are obligated to pay.

[Edited by - Rich on 06-22-2006 9:41 PM]

Posted by McK1:

seems you have it all figured out spree.

the building and the name on the jersey don't play the games

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-22-2006 8:53 PM]

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-22-2006 8:57 PM]

I do have it figured out. You just want to complain about IT and neglect the fact that Brown didn't do his job. It's a fact he didn't do his job, just liek it's true Isiah has yet to get the right mix of players here in NY. Regardless of what you think of IT, he does his job. IT is getting talent....but it's just not the right mix.

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by McK1:

seems you have it all figured out spree.

the building and the name on the jersey don't play the games

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-22-2006 8:53 PM]

[Edited by - McK1 on 06-22-2006 8:57 PM]

I do have it figured out. You just want to complain about IT and neglect the fact that Brown didn't do his job. It's a fact he didn't do his job, just liek it's true Isiah has yet to get the right mix of players here in NY. Regardless of what you think of IT, he does his job. IT is getting talent....but it's just not the right mix.

his job is not just to scout but to build a team. you yourself admit "its not the right mix"

he's been pouring ingredients in the pot since December 03 and still the substance has no form or identity.

Posted by EwingsGlass:

I am certain the contract has an arbitration clause, which is why they state it will be figured out by David Stern. The legal question is how "material" or important the alleged breach(es) are. Also, it matters what the contract says "good cause" is. Fact of the matter is, Stern cannot be delighted with the way Brown has handled himself in Detroit and NY. I would think he might use a heavy hand against Brown when determining a proper reconciliation amount. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the amount Brown gets is $1. (one dollar). Realistically, if the Knicks offer Brown $10 mill to shut up and walk away, he should take it.

what did LB do wrong in Detroit? I forgot. Owner gave him permission to talk to CLE and he did.

$1? Seems a little off the mark of what LB is going to get.

LB was FAR worse here than at any time in Detroit. Here he actually didn't even TRY to win the games. He even said as much on many occasions. His actions clearly backed that fact up. LB was ORDERED to stop making negative comments about the roster and specific players and he openly defied that order. He was told not to speak to the press without a Knicks PR man present and yet again he didn't listen. The thing is the Knicks may not win, but it does seem like they have a case.