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fishmike
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6/7/2006  12:51 PM
In the post Ewing era for one reason or another people posted thread after thread about Houston. How he was killing the cap with his max contract. How he didnt rebound more. How he was soft of defense. How the team would never be good until he was gone. How he talked about himself as a great 2 guard but had nothing on TMac or Kobe. How he wasnt elevating the Knicks or making guys around him better. How he was paid like a star but was just a 2nd piece next to Ewing.

Why do I get the sense that most of the people around here that said that stuff about Houston are the same that are protecting Marbury?.. (sorry, I meant to write Starbury). I mean isnt Steph our max player super star? Whats he done since being here aside from get embarrassed by Kidd for 4 games in his one playoff stint?
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Panos
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6/7/2006  12:52 PM
I dunno dude. Last I checked, Marbury gets lots of crap around here, too. Addition by subtraction, etc. etc.

purple012870
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6/7/2006  12:52 PM
I don't think Marbury is, in any way, devoid of criticism.
djsunyc
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6/7/2006  12:53 PM
well i know this, if quentin hit his jumpshots, then we would've won 47 games this year.
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6/7/2006  12:54 PM
i don't know what you are talking about, marbs get's destroyed on this board...and by the same 6 posters.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06-07-2006 12:54 PM]
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Nalod
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6/7/2006  12:55 PM
and 6 support him!
TMS
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6/7/2006  12:59 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

i don't know what you are talking about, marbs get's destroyed on this board...and by the same 6 posters.

who are the other 5?
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rvhoss
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6/7/2006  1:02 PM
so far that's 3 maybe 4 that have posted on this thread. Blueseats for sure...i don't count islesfan because he hates Isiah.

Supporting a player isn't even the point, it's the constant bashing.

The title of this thread alone is an example of just nothing better to do, so let me start ANOTHER eff marbury thread.

Another one, and another one, and another one.

the 6 that support him are too exhausted to keep posting the same hting, but the 6 that bash and bash have all the energy in the world.

The rest of us are knick fans.

the players come and go, the jersey stays the same.
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6/7/2006  1:18 PM
6 of one, half dozen of the other.



[Edited by - panos on 06-07-2006 1:18 PM]
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6/7/2006  2:01 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

so far that's 3 maybe 4 that have posted on this thread. Blueseats for sure...i don't count islesfan because he hates Isiah.

Supporting a player isn't even the point, it's the constant bashing.

The title of this thread alone is an example of just nothing better to do, so let me start ANOTHER eff marbury thread.

Another one, and another one, and another one.

the 6 that support him are too exhausted to keep posting the same hting, but the 6 that bash and bash have all the energy in the world.

The rest of us are knick fans.

the players come and go, the jersey stays the same.


dude, i'm not a Marbury hater for no reason... this has been a result of 3 years of watching this guy on & off the court... why am i not free to bash this guy while the rest of you are free to bash on LB, or anyone else for that matter? believe me, i WANT to root for him, but he makes it impossible for me to do it... if he'd grow the F up for once & become the leader he's SUPPOSED to be, then i'd be right there in your corner praising the guy... but for every positive thing he does as a NY Knick, there's at least 20 more things that i can't stand about the guy... just telling it like it is.
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6/7/2006  2:03 PM
if anything, Marbury gets too much criticism. but that's nothing new, Houston and Ewing always took too much criticism when things went wrong here.
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6/7/2006  2:13 PM
Alan Houston was a classy guy, very nice( I met him and he was a very personable guy, was nice to my wife and son,) He played hard, hurt and carried the knicks for a while, alan was a true professional, never did anything to tarnish his name or the Knicks franchise. He represented the uniform well. Yet all people will remember about him is is Huge contract.... And some hated him for it.....

Marbury is the total opposite, yet people make excuses, it is the coaches fault, he had bad teamates, wrong talent around him, he is misunderstood, blah, blah blah....

when will it end. I agree with fish...
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6/7/2006  2:24 PM
Being a knick fan and undying love for Starbury is not mutually inclusive.

There is the Pro-Larry anti Starbury majority (about 80% in favor based on numerous polls), then there is the faction that is pro-Marbury, anti Larry (the ohter 20%) then there is Bonnie whom is trying to please everyone by being anti Larry and Marbury.

Now in between there is the Isiah issue which further complicates things.
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6/7/2006  2:28 PM
Posted by tkf:

Marbury is the total opposite, yet people make excuses, it is the coaches fault, he had bad teamates, wrong talent around him, he is misunderstood, blah, blah blah....
I dont think Marbury fans were also Houston fans. Both of them sucked. One was a better player, the other was a better teammate. Neither of them belong in the same sentence as Ewing.
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6/7/2006  2:31 PM
very good point. this was a very good posting day...can't wait until the summer league...does LB coach the summer league team?

I'm not really pro anything, but I'm anti unadultrated bashing.

You have to remember what it was about when you were a kid...wins and losses...and when you defended your favorite player, it was stats, not personality.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06-07-2006 2:34 PM]
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fishmike
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6/7/2006  2:40 PM
dont know about you, but I've only ever cared about one stat
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gunsnewing
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6/7/2006  2:50 PM
2yrs ago there might have been only 6 Marbury bashers and I'm proud to say I was one of them but recently that number has grown considerably because of Marbury's own doing
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6/7/2006  2:51 PM
maybe 60 I think if the team turns around (like that 5 game winning streak) it'll be back down to 6. We had a crappy year, what can you say, the crappy year get's pinned on the best player...facts are facts.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06-07-2006 2:53 PM]
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gunsnewing
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6/7/2006  2:54 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by tkf:

Marbury is the total opposite, yet people make excuses, it is the coaches fault, he had bad teamates, wrong talent around him, he is misunderstood, blah, blah blah....
I dont think Marbury fans were also Houston fans. Both of them sucked. One was a better player, the other was a better teammate. Neither of them belong in the same sentence as Ewing.


yea as far as I'm concerned they both represent the dolan era of quintessential mediocrity.
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6/7/2006  3:08 PM
Posted by fishmike:

dont know about you, but I've only ever cared about one stat

How much crap the player can eat? That would explain your JJ love.
why is Marbury exempt from the Houston criticism?

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