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i hope the offseason plan isnt promise to over pay Al Harrington the max
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BRIGGS
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5/27/2006  8:51 AM
and somehow offer all of our picks for him. it would be along the lines of what this team has failed on miserably.
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5/27/2006  8:57 AM
exactly
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5/27/2006  10:00 AM
Bingo.
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5/27/2006  10:01 AM
this sounds just like a IT move, 100% backed by the idiot dolan..

book it..
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5/27/2006  1:27 PM
I can't see Dolan signing off on a S&T deal for Harrington when he was turning down a deal for Kenyon.

I think Dolan has gone as far as he is willing to go as far as money goes and any deal for a Harrington would not happen unless there was some off load of salary to match up.
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5/27/2006  1:38 PM
Posted by tkf:

this sounds just like a IT move, 100% backed by the idiot dolan..

book it..

Fish would love it.
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Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by tkf:

this sounds just like a IT move, 100% backed by the idiot dolan..

book it..

Fish would love it.

Al Harrington has improved as a player, but he's not what we need to improve this particular team. We need a floor leader at PG, we need a an athletic shot blocker, we need another sniper and a player aat long term. thats not including subtracting a lot of sht. bringing in and overpaying al harrington is the anti-equation. How many wins did atlanta have this year? al is just another guy who needs the ball in his hands
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5/27/2006  6:05 PM
Add Al Harrington to this roster and fire the coach and we could easily be a 31 win team. Don't you see the big picture!?!?!? 31 wins is progress!
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5/27/2006  6:12 PM
Posted by Solace:

Add Al Harrington to this roster and fire the coach and we could easily be a 31 win team. Don't you see the big picture!?!?!? 31 wins is progress!
The team would win closer to 32 next year if you don't make one roster change but fire the coach. That's not the goal by means, but it's getting rid of one tiny contributing factor to the team's problems.
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5/27/2006  6:16 PM
its easy fopr atlanta

they need to get to the minimum salary threshold-- they take on mo taylor both picks + 3mm $ cash and al harrington gets a max contract so they get value
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5/27/2006  6:19 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Solace:

Add Al Harrington to this roster and fire the coach and we could easily be a 31 win team. Don't you see the big picture!?!?!? 31 wins is progress!
The team would win closer to 32 next year if you don't make one roster change but fire the coach. That's not the goal by means, but it's getting rid of one tiny contributing factor to the team's problems.


always be careful with what u wish for. granted it doesnt take much for a team with a 125mm $ payroll to get atleast 35 wins[which is still unbelievable low for all that cash spent] but there is a reason FA FAR FAR greater than having LB look for the right formula. adding to the me players would be a BIG mistake
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5/27/2006  6:26 PM
formula for why the knicks are bad

jim paxson---the knicks were the only team willing to deal for eddy curry

i gave them the parameters of a deal and that was it

isiah bid against no one and gave paxson everything he asked for, for a player who they offered 20mm to retire.

same thing with marbury

we can no longer negotiate deals like this, but they will because they believe they are better than what they are
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5/28/2006  12:56 AM
Isiah's goal is to rebuild every team in the NBA except the Knicks.
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5/28/2006  6:56 AM
The thing with the Curry trade, which i think a lot of people forget about is that we got AD from Chicago too- Yes, he was pretty crap for us, but remember that Chicago loved him and did not want to lose him, and I think thats one of the reasons IT had to sweeten the deal- Chicago would probably rather have lost Curry for nothing rather than trade Curry and Davis to us for nothing- so I think IT had to give what he gave (bar the fact that he could have probably got pick protection for 1 to 3 BUT that would mean we'd have to either give away our 2007 pick completely, or given the 2008 instead, both of which will probably be better drafts than this years draft).

As for Al harrington- its the scenario I fear for this off season! also remember the golden rule that any player traded to or signed in New York instantly reverts to their worst career statistics! So in this case if IT signed Harrington he'd probably average 12 points and 6 rebounds! (his worst stast with full time minutes)
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5/28/2006  8:38 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

formula for why the knicks are bad

jim paxson---the knicks were the only team willing to deal for eddy curry

i gave them the parameters of a deal and that was it

isiah bid against no one and gave paxson everything he asked for, for a player who they offered 20mm to retire.

same thing with marbury

we can no longer negotiate deals like this, but they will because they believe they are better than what they are

Briggs please. Paxson wanted Curry don't even start that. That offer was 20mm over what 50 years or something like that to stay in Chicago and play and if he has to retire then it works out for them because they can pay him over his life. That's no money over the life. Annuities and such being as they are. Paxson wanted Curry out there playing.
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5/28/2006  8:55 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:

formula for why the knicks are bad

jim paxson---the knicks were the only team willing to deal for eddy curry

i gave them the parameters of a deal and that was it

isiah bid against no one and gave paxson everything he asked for, for a player who they offered 20mm to retire.

same thing with marbury

we can no longer negotiate deals like this, but they will because they believe they are better than what they are

Briggs please. Paxson wanted Curry don't even start that. That offer was 20mm over what 50 years or something like that to stay in Chicago and play and if he has to retire then it works out for them because they can pay him over his life. That's no money over the life. Annuities and such being as they are. Paxson wanted Curry out there playing.

your facts are wrong. they were giving him 20mm to retire
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5/28/2006  9:34 AM
Several prominent cardiologists cleared Curry to play, but Barry Maron, a world-renowned specialist in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, suggested the DNA test. During the team's media day, Bulls General Manager John Paxson said he understood the privacy issues involved but insisted the Bulls did not have an ulterior motive; they simply do not want a situation similar to those of former Boston Celtics guard Reggie Lewis or Loyola Marymount star Hank Gathers -- players with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy who collapsed and died. Paxson told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next fifty years if he failed the genetic test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_Curry

[Edited by - McK1 on 05-28-2006 09:35 AM]
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Paxson ultimately made two contract offers to Curry, a restricted free agent. But both offers were contingent on him taking the DNA exam. If he passed the test, he would receive $32 million over four years. If the test indicated that Curry was predisposed to a potentially fatal heart condition, the Bulls promised him an annuity that would pay Curry $400,000 annually for 50 years -- a total of $20 million for someone who wouldn't be playing.

"It's hurting me that Eddy's now saying that we didn't care about him," says Paxson. "It's painful because Eddy's a good guy. We were trying to do the right thing for him, and for us, but more for him. As time went on, people were trying to get in the middle of it or trying to convince him we were trying not to do right by him. And reading his comments now I really do get the feeling that that he believes that we betrayed him.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/ian_thomsen/10/13/curry/1.html
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5/28/2006  9:49 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:

formula for why the knicks are bad

jim paxson---the knicks were the only team willing to deal for eddy curry

i gave them the parameters of a deal and that was it

isiah bid against no one and gave paxson everything he asked for, for a player who they offered 20mm to retire.

same thing with marbury

we can no longer negotiate deals like this, but they will because they believe they are better than what they are

Briggs please. Paxson wanted Curry don't even start that. That offer was 20mm over what 50 years or something like that to stay in Chicago and play and if he has to retire then it works out for them because they can pay him over his life. That's no money over the life. Annuities and such being as they are. Paxson wanted Curry out there playing.

your facts are wrong. they were giving him 20mm to retire

How are my facts wrong, its an annuality payment which btw, the NBAPA informed Paxson and Curry's agent that no such agreement would be allowed. It was a meaningless offer to keep Curry from demanding to play somewhere else. They wanted to take the test so he could play for them not retire.

Paxson ultimately made two contract offers to Curry, a restricted free agent. But both offers were contingent on him taking the DNA exam. If he passed the test, he would receive $32 million over four years. If the test indicated that Curry was predisposed to a potentially fatal heart condition, the Bulls promised him an annuity that would pay Curry $400,000 annually for 50 years -- a total of $20 million for someone who wouldn't be playing.
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5/28/2006  10:55 AM
Posted by McK1:

"It's hurting me that Eddy's now saying that we didn't care about him," says Paxson.

this is probably coming from jamal and isiah. i'm not saying it's a bad thing...i'm just saying that's probably how they sold it to eddy...especially jamal who left on a sour note.
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