Posted by OngBok:

While with the Spurs & Pacers they never made it out of the first round.

you sure about that?

damn, i didn't know that all those knicks-pacers series were in the first round...even all the best of seven series we played when the first round was best of five...interesting.

Oh, my bad on the pacers

and Isiah has a history of running franchises and organizations into the ground

The funniest part of this saga is Joe Glass. I guess this is how he earns his money. Quote from Brown last year.


"My thing has never changed. I want to coach Detroit, and I expressed that to them," Brown said of his meeting Wednesday in suburban Detroit with Davidson, team president Joe Dumars and Brown's agent, Joe Glass. "Now Mr. D and Joe just have to talk to Mr. Glass and decide what they want to do.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by OngBok:

My point is that he has a history of attacking his players and management not tollerating it

that is his history. So if you can't deal with it don't hire him. We hired him so guess what, let the man do his job. He has won, so who cares about his methods. If you don't like his methods hire someone else. Sooner or later we have to hire someone and let them do their thing. Sooner or later.

For a guy who claims he is not a Larry lover, you sure know how to find your way around this board defending him at every turn......

bigbeast - what you said

>>That just shows me that LB's antics are impossible to defend.....

holfresh, what escapes you bigbeast and some others is we arent defending Larry Brown, we are criticizing management. Larry Brown's patterns are obvious and well documented. He's doing what he's done at every stop in the NBA. So why is management suprised? If you want the quiet good soldier you hired the wrong guy. Everyone knows LB's mouth is a problem. Everyone knows he wants guys traded every week. Everyone knows he's murder on his point guards. Everyone knows he will openly feud with players. Everyone knows his ways. So if you dont like those ways or arent prepared to deal with them dont freakin hire him. This is more Isiah idiocy.

Personally, I find myself constantly defending him because guys around here think he's the problem. It irks me. Isiah and the players he brought in are the problem. They were the problem before Larry got here. Ask Lenny what it was like working for them. As Don Chaney. Herb's probably happy to have a job.

Posted by holfresh:

Posted by fishmike:

holfresh, what escapes you bigbeast and some others is we arent defending Larry Brown, we are criticizing management. Larry Brown's patterns are obvious and well documented. He's doing what he's done at every stop in the NBA. So why is management suprised? If you want the quiet good soldier you hired the wrong guy. Everyone knows LB's mouth is a problem. Everyone knows he wants guys traded every week. Everyone knows he's murder on his point guards. Everyone knows he will openly feud with players. Everyone knows his ways. So if you dont like those ways or arent prepared to deal with them dont freakin hire him. This is more Isiah idiocy.

Personally, I find myself constantly defending him because guys around here think he's the problem. It irks me. Isiah and the players he brought in are the problem. They were the problem before Larry got here. Ask Lenny what it was like working for them. As Don Chaney. Herb's probably happy to have a job.

I think management knew what they were getting but I don't think management counted on Larry planning a coup...I don't think they knew Larry would not have a set rotation or would have coached this team to 23 wins...Now he wants to add more payroll and get players that may not be attractive at the gates...Thats a sin at camp cablevision...Listen, Larry is not building for the future, he wants to win now...He doesn't like the young players...Honestly, fish, whats the attraction?

You're correct. They wanted a coach to come in and toe the company line. A company line that has averaged 35 wins for 7 years now. But a great coach was not going to do that. YOu think a Parcell's type would come in and sit tight and stay the course. Of course not. This organization was a mess long before LB got here. LB knew this. Everyone who wasn't blind and dreaming of being Phoenix East knew this. LB's job was to change this direction and go in a new one. OF COURSE HE WAS GOING TO STAGE A COUP. It has to be done. Unfortunately for you and me, Dolan and Zeke won't let this happen because it exposes them. Our coach and GM are always going to be at odds because this is the atmosphere that we as an organization have created. This my friend is why your team stinks!!!