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TymeLessKnicks
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4/20/2006  12:40 AM
wat team would want francis after his fall from grace?

who wants the T.O. of basketball in marbury?

who is willing to trade for a black hole in mo taylor?

i was just rethinking these questions today and i think we might just have to end up keeping all those fools....can u guys find any one u think might want them?
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4/20/2006  12:43 AM
Mo T has an expiring deal. Never underestimate Zeke's ability to move an expiring deal.

I think Zeke will make big plays for Jermaine O'neal and Al Harrington (one or the other, not both) and maybe look to move Marbury to Minnesota if Brown is coming back. If Brown is leaving, who knows?
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4/20/2006  12:48 AM
just watched SAS and he says iverson is done in philly.
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4/20/2006  12:50 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

just watched SAS and he says iverson is done in philly.

I don't think we have the pieces, but as I said before - if LB is here, he will campaign for Iverson. And Iverson would love to play for Brown. I just don't think it's a match unless we take Webber + Iverson for Jalen + Mo + Nate + Frye. if that trade happens, I will become a Nuggets fan.
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4/20/2006  12:58 AM
francis/marbury, MoT and JJ for iverson and webber...if you guys truly believe this addition by subtraction argument.

They can unload two malcontents for cap space and a star PG.

Marbury and Iverson have the same salary. Francis and Iverson are tradeable straight up as well.

All we need to do is add up to webber.

While I'd like to see the fab five brought back together on the knicks, this works as well:
jalen/MoT/Franchise for iverson/webber

cap space cap space cap space.

I'm not concerned at all about being able to unload marbury or franchise (i prefer we move franchise, but hey, iverson is iverson)

Hey, I'm not down on marbury, but for those that are, I'm not willing to part with any of this year's rooks for anybody, not KG not even duncan.

long story short, a deal with philly can easily be made.
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4/20/2006  1:00 AM
if Philly took Marbury OR Francis for Iverson, they would be crucified. if they took Nate and Frye, they could at least start an actual rebuild. Philly isn't stupid. come on.
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4/20/2006  1:03 AM
neither are the knicks, so it's time to end the stupid trade scenarios involving marbury for wesley persons.

If we'd dump our best player for personality clashes, no reason every other team wouldn't dump their best player for cap space.

Nobody is getting frye. Trust me on this one.
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4/20/2006  1:07 AM
we'll see.
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4/20/2006  1:08 AM
we'll see indeed.
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4/20/2006  2:20 AM
i just dont have that good feeling about our offseason as i did before. i mean these guys really really showed nothing all year for them to even be remotely tradeable.

look at it this way:

T.O. was released and then a team (dallas) took a chance on him. he was released because he was UNTRADEABLE.

francis is abviously not the 'franhise' any more. this has been stated since like december. he sucks...really really bad!!!! lost his swagger, he lost his fire!!!!

as a gm why would u trade for any of these guys? i know i wouldnt....
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4/20/2006  2:20 AM
if Philly took Marbury OR Francis for Iverson, they would be crucified. if they took Nate and Frye, they could at least start an actual rebuild. Philly isn't stupid. come on.

Marbury, Iverson, Francis. Holy Moley!

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4/20/2006  3:17 AM
If we're adding Iverson to Marbury and Francis we might as well get Baron Davis too.
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4/20/2006  3:20 AM
I no longer trust Isiah to make these decisions. He's proven himself to be knave.
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4/20/2006  9:16 AM
its going to be impossible to move alot of these players because of the CBA, nevermind their performance or lack thereof.

this summers ex-Knicks:

Steph

Jerome

Mo

maybe Crawford in the right deal

one or two min salary players, my guess Woods and Lee

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4/20/2006  9:17 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

francis/marbury, MoT and JJ for iverson and webber...if you guys truly believe this addition by subtraction argument.
Swapping overpriced lottery team players? I'd rather get smarter, younger, and better defensive players. (The latter point is directed only at C-Webb.)

TymeLessKnicks
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4/20/2006  10:14 AM
so far the only teams i hear being mentioned is minnisota (garnett) and philly (iverson)....

if thats the only 2 options we have of trading steph thats not a good sign of things to come. IMO u need alot more than 2 teams looking to aquire the player for leverage purposes and to just not be forced into a deal.

thats why i think there is a very very high chance that all these guys come back next year. i just dont see who would take them....
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4/20/2006  10:15 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by rvhoss:

francis/marbury, MoT and JJ for iverson and webber...if you guys truly believe this addition by subtraction argument.
Swapping overpriced lottery team players? I'd rather get smarter, younger, and better defensive players. (The latter point is directed only at C-Webb.)


first of all, an offer of Francis/Marbury, Mo T & JJ for Iverson & CWebb would get you laughed out of Billy King's office... enough w/these ridiculous trade proposals... we're NOT getting AI unless we throw every good young piece we have at the Sixers... btw, if you think Allen Iverson is an overpriced lottery team player, you know nothing about basketball... the guy's 1 of the top 5 players in the NBA... he's worth every penny of the money he's making.
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4/20/2006  11:17 AM
Every season, Knick fans wonder who will take these guys and someone does, and somehow gets praise for doing so. So I will just wait and see but I am not fooled about this stuff that nobody wants these guys.
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4/20/2006  11:22 AM
there's a reason phil jackson passed on this team...and he was the first choice.
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4/20/2006  11:31 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Every season, Knick fans wonder who will take these guys and someone does, and somehow gets praise for doing so. So I will just wait and see but I am not fooled about this stuff that nobody wants these guys.

It's not about who's going to take these players or that nobody wants them. It's about what kind of garbage are we going to get back and at what cost in terms of longer and more expensive contracts.

I can trade a piece of s*** but if I get back an even bigger piece of s*** then what's the point? Should I be praised for being able to trade the smaller piece of s***? That's basically what people have been doing to Isiah for 2 1/2 years now.
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