Well, someone wanted to put larry brown on a list. well here is your list. suprisingly, the knicks had other disappointing coaches that may even leap frog larry's debacle.

5.) lenny wilkins- he lasted a little over half a season and did nothing to motivate this team. now, he was a great coach on the right team. however he did well on teams that have professionalism and vets ( like seattle, cleveland and pre-rider atlanta). but when it comes to a team with talent but colorful personalities ( toronto, ny, atlanta w/ rider)he does not know how to manage them. not a disciplinarian as well as a defensive specialist, he lost control of the team as fast as anyone else.

4.)don nelson- a coach who was with the wrong team at the wrong time. he is an offensive specialist and probably one of the best offensive minded coaches in history, write up there with doug moe and cotton fitzsimmons. but he had a tough defensive team. he needed to adjust and couldn't. take into account that he limited the touches of his best player(ewing) as well as starting hubert davis and making mason the number one option on offense was ridiculous. he was right about ewing declining and needing a better player to play with him but anthony mason wasn't that person.

3.) don chaney- former coach of the year. i was willing to give him a pass until i saw him game after game getting outcoached at the end of games. to his credit, the talent level was ridiculously sub-par. probably the worst talent i can remember our team having. but he was awful with x's and o's and he had little respect on the team. he did get effort from his team though. which is different from the next coach.

2.) larry brown- i hope, no, pray that in a year or two i can scratch him off this list and put him on the best coach list. but for now he belongs here and i can not see how this is going to change. i was very suprised to see that he has this team unprepared and getting used to lazy habits. very inconsistent and unprofessional by calling his team out constantly. i think people are starting to realize his ruse and holding him accountible. herb did a better job last year with less talent. severely outcoached and does not motivate the players he have. stubborn and does not adapt style to fit the team, whereas very good coaches (ahem, pat riley?)can do. overrated. if this continues then he will be number 1 this time next year.

1.) john mcleod- what an idiot. when you bench an all-star point guard (mark jackson) for an aging slower point guard (mo cheeks) when you have a front court that is built to run you deserve to get fired. oh i forgot, they did not need to run with their "motion" offense which was probably the most boring offense ever. it was great to see them starting the ederly (kiki, cheeks and tucker) with the likes of jackson and gerald wilkins on the bench. the worst.

I agree with your order. I hope Brown can change his ways to the point where he doesn't make it to the number one spot.

Posted by TMS:

i gave Lenny Wilkens & Don Chaney more than 1 full year before i started bashing them... i think it's not too much to ask for LB to be given the same seeing as though he's head & shoulders above both of them as a head coach... i love how people around here wanna kill a head coach or GM after not even a full season expecting them to turn things around immediately... it's not that easy... you have to bring in the guys who will buy into your philosophy & execute that philosophy on the court.

you are right that he maybe needs more time and the team will probably be better next year ( how can it be any worse?). however, he did a deplorable job in his first year. most first year coaches struggle in the beginning but then the players are used to what the coach is saying and end the season with a strong run. brown's team has been awful throughout. based on this year, he is the worst coach in the league. getting blownout game after game is the coach's fault. being competitive is the coach's fault. inconsistent lineups and minutes are his fault. so he deserves to be on that list.

The most disappointing thing to me is that we have had more than 5 coach's in the last 15 years.

I was so happy Duke lost last night that I cried for the first time since my boy was born.

I was so happy Gonzaga lost. I was listening to the the Booker Show on 92.3, and they were saying how all the headlines should just say "You're bracket is screwed." So true, I'm glad I didn't have one. lol

I like the Duke players. I love JJ. I have mad respect for coach K. Outside of Paulus their players are all classy. But as a husky I cant' like that program. Just hering the name makes me sick. If I ever saw Christian Laettner I would do some things that are very unbecoming of a Bipman.

I'm not quite as high on Morrison as others. He's a great scorer, but doesn't really seem to do much else when I watch him. In a stronger draft, he would probably go 8 to 12, NOT #1.

Posted by oohah:

i gave Lenny Wilkens & Don Chaney more than 1 full year before i started bashing them... i think it's not too much to ask for LB to be given the same seeing as though he's head & shoulders above both of them as a head coach... i love how people around here wanna kill a head coach or GM after not even a full season expecting them to turn things around immediately... it's not that easy... you have to bring in the guys who will buy into your philosophy & execute that philosophy on the court.

Lenny Wilkens did not get a full season. HIs time was split by the end and beginning of two seasons. During his time with the Knicks they were 40-41.

just put it into perspective like this... LB's following 3 coaches, who by & large had no idea what the hell they were doing (& yes, i'm including Herb, but he gets a pass cuz he didn't have any prior experience)... therefore he has to UNDO all the teachings that the previous 3 have instilled into this team before he can get them to DO what he wants them to do... anyway, that's how i look at it... if he were following a good coach like Rick Carlisle & this team tanked like they did this year, i'd be right in the boat w/the rest of you bashing on his coaching this year... but that wasn't the case... i think he deserves more time... if by the Allstar break next year, this team still doesn't know what to do on the court & are playing like rank amateurs, then i think it'll be time to put accountability squarely on his shoulders.

LB did not have to un-teach anything. Over half of the roster was changed by the begining of this year. He's done a horrible job and it is nobody's fault but his.

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I agree with McLoed as the most disappointing. He was a goddamn moron benching Jackson the way he did. But Riley made the biggest error in trading Jackson. Since that trade, this team has not had a floor leader of his caliber. (He was about done when he was traded back to the Knicks) Remember that the team that took the Bulls to 7 was the Jackson/X/Wilkens team, no Knicks team after that took a Jordan bulls team past 6 games.

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 03-24-2006 4:15 PM]

let's take it a step further. i think as of now there is only three people on that team from last year if i'm not mistaken. two of them (malik and mo t)came only half the season last year. getting marbury out of losing habits is one thing. but everyone else? practically a spanking new team when he took over.

Allanfan: While you're at it why don't you send me one of those vintage Eisley jersey's so that my son can get beat up when he goes to pre-school. Thanks pal

Posted by Bippity10:

The funny thing about Chaney. If you are truly objective and look at the roster he had and how hard they played. The man actually didn't do a bad job.

he took over JVG's team & they pretty much tanked the rest of the year... i was expecting much improved results after a full training camp, but the team was still playing like they were lost & there was no consistency from 1 game to another... nothing about Chaney ever led me to believe that he did a good job while he was the Knicks' head coach.