well, this is usually a summer topic but since our team is GARBAGE and so disappointing, i wanted to start a new topic. i was going to say in the nba but that list is extensive so i will do knick players.

5.) rolando blackman- probably riley's worst coaching move besides letting starks shoot in the last game of the finals. ro black was the type of guard we needed to beat chicago and he still avg. around 20ppg with dallas the year before. he was a good defender who jordan stated about giving him trouble. but for us he was inconsistent and a step slow. i also thought the eastern conference play at the time ( grinding out) was not his style.

4.) marcus camby- i know when healthy he put up very solid numbers but the problem is that. he was never healthy. in the 99 playoffs i thought we saw the next center for us for the next 10 years. but that did not materialized. he is doing well in denver putting together back to back fairly healthy seasons. however in ny he spent more time on the rehab table than on the court.

3.) john wallace- another first round pick that amounted to nothing. his syracuse run was nothing short of spetacular. when we drafted him he had freakish athleticism that was not displayed by anyone on our team at that time. he could score in bunches too. but his hideous defense ( you think we had bad defenders now) and sour attitude led to a short knick run as well as a short career.

2.) charles smith- the man who was supposed to put us over the hump. a multi position 6'10" forward who can play three positions well and avg.20ppg as well as 8rpg. sounds great right? well we forgot that he played in the stay puft conference at the time ( the western conference was SOFT) and he reap the benefits. then we got him and he stunk it up. now he did have impressive numbers for a couple of seasons but he was constantly rattled by others, pippen punked him down and made bonehead plays. a lot more than just a play that could have won the series.

1.) antonio mcdyess- some people thought that mcdyess was the knick killer. that he almost single-handedly brought this franchise down since we gave up a lot to get him. well, i just thought we would get a healthy player and we didn't. i was for the trade at the time. why wouldn't i be? he was young, athletic and one of the best post players in the league. he was simply a monster around the basket. but fate would have it that he went down with a nasty knee injury that took two years to heal. he is a good complimentary player now. but his potential of being a superstar is far behind and infuriates knick fans enough to ask "why?"

1) Marbury has to be on that list based on salary and other leadership qualities.
2) Houston has to be on that list based on salary.

Those would be my one and two. Also others you forgot, Tony Campbell was a disaster but was paid well for those days. John Wallace wasn't given a chance to succeed in NY, the coach didn't like him much. Smith was asked to play SF too much, his best games were at the 4 spot in his Knick career. Also add Glen Rice. Curry, Rose or Francis hasn't been on the team long enough to make your list.

I don't base dissapointing players based on salaries. They are what they are. I can't put Curry on that list quite yet, but I will base them for their injuries and stuff.

In no specific order:

- Tim Thomas- Fugazy
- Antonio McDyess- Injuries
- Marcus Camby- Injuries (I love and loved the guy though. Same with Dice
- Milos Vujanic- We had such high expectations for him, some thought he'd be a savior, and he never even came to the US.
- Fred Weis- Picking him was flat out a dissapointment. He probably sucked according to everyone else, but we just picked him b/c of his size and size along, and didn't take on Artest. Idiots.

I became a Knicks fan in '92, so I guess I can put Charles Smith up there, however, I don't really remember much about him. He seemed to play good though, in those Knicks classics games that they have.

5 - Dice (Never took control of his injuries)
4 - Sweetney (Never got his weight under control. Not even a little)
3 - Houston (couldnt change his 1-dimensional style)
2 - Tim Thomas (So much talent, so little heart)
1 - Marbury (best player on this team but hasnt done much for 3 years)

Cant put Curry on that list yet. Camby was the man. His injuries were not his fault. Milos just didnt want to come to NY. I never had that much hope so I was never really that disappointed.

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 03-23-2006 1:41 PM]

how can u guys even think about putting camby on that list... he was awesome........ i go with Dice and Marbury for sure

Posted by Elite:

how can u guys even think about putting camby on that list... he was awesome........ i go with Dice and Marbury for sure

How quick they forget, Camby had one great playoff run and it was downhill ever since. His lack of progression was blamed on everything from Ewing to soft nature. The old injury bugs start coming back like blazing storm. He couldn't be counted on to stay in the line up at all towards the end and he finished the season and his Knick career on the DL.

I am glad that he finally matured in Denver, though.

Isiah Thomas.

I for one never could imagine that after 2 and half seasons we would be at this juncture with so much talent.

Isiah don't play, but this team is very disappointing to me.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Jerome James not on the list?

no hope invested in him..

Posted by Elite:

how can u guys even think about putting camby on that list... he was awesome........ i go with Dice and Marbury for sure

I love Camby and he's the man, and heck, he's my favorite player not on the Knicks, but he hardly even played for us, he was always so injured. He still gets his fair share now, but it's nice to see how far he's come.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Jerome James not on the list?

Same as Curry, same as Francis, and others hasn't been long enough. Hell if you put JJ on the list, you might as well put Q Rich right up there with him.

Posted by Pharzeone:

And to get technical based on the hype meter, one could argue, that Ewing should be on the list too.

Man, I dont see how (even taking hype into consideration) he was disappointing. The dude is the greatest Knick ever.

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 03-23-2006 2:50 PM]