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knixphan
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8/22/2002  7:15 PM
You have one move left. Dolan says 'whatever you want, but this one makes or breaks your career."

One move. (Trade or Signing)
And then the season.


What's your move? What single move gives us the best shot at returning to the finals this season?
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8/23/2002  9:49 AM
Posted by knixphan:

You have one move left. Dolan says 'whatever you want, but this one makes or breaks your career."

One move. (Trade or Signing)
And then the season.


What's your move? What single move gives us the best shot at returning to the finals this season?

Trade: Thomas, Ward, and Lottery protected first round and second round denver pick to seattle for Payton. This gets the Knicks to the finals definitely. If that doesn't work.

Trade: Thomas, Ward and denver second rounder for Sam Cassell. If that deoesn't work.

Trade: Thomas Ward and nyk second round pick for NVE.

Big man don't need them, no one in the east has one. Just sign another 7' stiff with some ability.
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8/23/2002  10:30 AM
Ther are no 7 footers available. There are no 7footer left that can play over 10min a game. Knicks dont have the goods to get a decent center.
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8/23/2002  10:42 AM
Posted by falcindor:

Ther are no 7 footers available. There are no 7footer left that can play over 10min a game. Knicks dont have the goods to get a decent center.

Actually there are 7' stiffs that are available.
Wang ZhiZhi, Boumteje, Woods, Nesterovic there are a few more out there.
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8/23/2002  11:26 AM
One move to save my career ??? I would get in a 3 way, deal that is !!! HORNETS trade ELDEN CAMPBELL & 2nd rd pick to the CLIPPERS / CLIPPERS trade OLAWAKANDI to NEW YORK / NEW YORK trades SPREWELL & FRANK WILLIAMS to the HORNETS & a 2nd rd pick to the CLIPPERS. The CLIPPERS still have a center ( cheaper than $80mil ) plus to 2 draft picks. The HORNETS still have a center in MAGLORE plus the addition of SPREWELL at the SG with MASHBURN (SF), BARON(PG) & PJ BROWN(PF). NEW YORK LINEUP: C=KANDI PF=MCDYESS SF=ANDERSON SG=HOUSTON PG=WARD
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8/23/2002  12:18 PM
Posted by K9:

One move to save my career ??? I would get in a 3 way, deal that is !!! HORNETS trade ELDEN CAMPBELL & 2nd rd pick to the CLIPPERS / CLIPPERS trade OLAWAKANDI to NEW YORK / NEW YORK trades SPREWELL & FRANK WILLIAMS to the HORNETS & a 2nd rd pick to the CLIPPERS. The CLIPPERS still have a center ( cheaper than $80mil ) plus to 2 draft picks. The HORNETS still have a center in MAGLORE plus the addition of SPREWELL at the SG with MASHBURN (SF), BARON(PG) & PJ BROWN(PF). NEW YORK LINEUP: C=KANDI PF=MCDYESS SF=ANDERSON SG=HOUSTON PG=WARD

You know what, even considering the Lower-to-Upper case ratio the above is somewhat reasonable. The Knicks do loose a heart and soul type player, but I would do the above because of the big man in the middle. The Hornets loose size but add fire. The Clips do loose a big center, but they do add another big who is not constantly demanding the ball down low - that's Brand's job - and they also already have enough cheap big men off the bench.

Very reasonable.
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8/23/2002  1:53 PM
Trade Thomas and Ward for NVE.Sign Ewing and Kemp for cheap.Then hire Layden as waterboy.If he's not good as that i'll hang him.
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8/23/2002  3:17 PM
So K9 vs. Mason is an issue of KANDI vs. VAN EXEL - Who takes the Knicks farther by his presence on the court?

One is the guy you want to battle the Shaqs and Vlades, the other is the one you hope will break down the Bibbys and Iversons...Bothe have west coast experience which could prove valuable in the finals...

I don't know if I came up with my career-saver yet - Still pondering...
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8/23/2002  4:10 PM
Posted by knixphan:

So K9 vs. Mason is an issue of KANDI vs. VAN EXEL - Who takes the Knicks farther by his presence on the court?

One is the guy you want to battle the Shaqs and Vlades, the other is the one you hope will break down the Bibbys and Iversons...Bothe have west coast experience which could prove valuable in the finals...

I don't know if I came up with my career-saver yet - Still pondering...

Kandi in the NY minute. It's not even a close call.

I still can't understand all of the Van Exel callings. Bad knee, bad attitude, bad defense, bad contract, old age, shoot-first pg. What gives?
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8/23/2002  4:50 PM
Yeah, I'd take Kandi over pretty much anyone right now. He could develop into a franchise center.
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8/23/2002  5:45 PM
I would also take Kandi over NVE,but it's almost impossible clippers would let him go.
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8/23/2002  8:00 PM
So if Kandi deal is impossible, then that's not gonna save your career, and Dolan fires you. Game over.

Just out of curiosity, How far over the cap would we be signing someone like Kandi to his asking price? (with Luxury tax, I'm assuming an extra 20 mil per year? or more?)

So if a gun is pointed at your head, and someone says "GET US INTO THE FINALS!" ...To quote master thespian Keanu Reeves in 'Speed'...What do you do?
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8/24/2002  1:05 AM
You can point a gun to my head but I can't do one move. Damn if I could seduce my woman with one move!

By your thinking, other teams have to accept my trade. Without sequential bargaining, the move is: Eisley for Duncan.

Hell, anybody for Duncan.



[Edited by - lrluis on 08/24/2002 01:08:35]
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8/24/2002  9:19 AM
I would do this -

Spree and Othella Harrington and Denver 2nd rounder
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Artest, Jeff Foster and Al Harrington
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8/24/2002  12:31 PM

"By your thinking, other teams have to accept my trade. Without sequential bargaining, the move is: Eisley for Duncan."

Oops - Let me clarify...That ONE move can be a sequence with a particular end result...but the sequence must end in a Knicks squad that is finals-bound...
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8/24/2002  5:22 PM
Posted by knixphan:

So K9 vs. Mason is an issue of KANDI vs. VAN EXEL

Hell, lets get them both. Layden, get on top of it.
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8/24/2002  7:37 PM
Posted by LJ2:
Posted by knixphan:

So K9 vs. Mason is an issue of KANDI vs. VAN EXEL

Hell, lets get them both. Layden, get on top of it.

if we can pull off some sort of spree-kandi deal then we should trade kt and ward for van exel and sign byron russel

c: Kandi, Doleac
PF: Dice, Harrington
SF: Russel, anderson
SG: Houston, postell
PG: Van EX, eisley, williams

quality team
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8/24/2002  8:57 PM
With Odom and Maggette at 3 and Richardson and Piatkowski at 2, I can't understand why the Clips would want Spree.
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8/24/2002  10:49 PM
Posted by BigSm00th:

With Odom and Maggette at 3 and Richardson and Piatkowski at 2, I can't understand why the Clips would want Spree.
well i was thinking of something similar to the aforementioned 3-way deal with charlotte
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8/24/2002  11:38 PM
Oh, my bad, I thought you meant straight up.
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