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nysoldier
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3/15/2006  6:51 PM
He should have never hired Larry Brown. I would fire him just for the fact he did that. Him or Herb Williams would have done a much better job with this team. Larry Brown is an egomaniac that purposely sabotaged this team to either get Isiahs' job or to get rid of certain players. This is is the same guy that blew the olympics. I dont want to hear any excuses for him, you dont get 10 mil to get less than 25 wins in a season and to feud with your players in the press. This is the same thing that happened in Greece. SO go ahead and blame Marbury and all of the players if you want, but the fact is he has stiffled them all. I bet you Frye would be challenging for rookie of the year if he was playing somewhere else.
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3/15/2006  6:54 PM
hiring Larry Brown was 1 of the few absolute no brainer moves he's made as a Knicks' GM... it's the other moves he's made that should be questioned.
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3/15/2006  6:55 PM
While I have stated my case against Marbury I have to agree Brown has issues too. The first being that he is extremely overrated and the Olympics are a prime example of this. Is anyone surprised at this season? Brown may have a good resume but he also has tons of question marks too. The Championship and the return to the finals have pulled the wool over some peoples eyes about this guys true talent. Sure he makes teams better - but he is also destructive. If he is running some type of agenda to get Isiah out and himself into the GM spot - I give the man zero respect. He could have just gone somewhere else and gotten both jobs. You also dont sabotage a team for your ego, your agenda, etc.

There are many plusses and minuses to having Brown as coach. I think most would agree this team needed a strong presence on the sidelines - Brown may have been a little too strong for them. I am not trying to hate on him but I definitely think there are a lot of reasons to have reservations about this guys ability to fix this situation moving forward.

I dont think Isiah made a mistake in taking him in as coach though - it was him or Jax and Jax wasnt coming so had he not signed Brown he would have been killed in the media.

[Edited by - OasisBU on 03-15-2006 6:56 PM]
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3/15/2006  6:57 PM
Dolan needs to blow this whole thing up and start all over
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3/15/2006  10:09 PM

Posted by OasisBU:

While I have stated my case against Marbury I have to agree Brown has issues too. The first being that he is extremely overrated and the Olympics are a prime example of this. Is anyone surprised at this season? Brown may have a good resume but he also has tons of question marks too. The Championship and the return to the finals have pulled the wool over some peoples eyes about this guys true talent. Sure he makes teams better - but he is also destructive. If he is running some type of agenda to get Isiah out and himself into the GM spot - I give the man zero respect. He could have just gone somewhere else and gotten both jobs. You also dont sabotage a team for your ego, your agenda, etc.

There are many plusses and minuses to having Brown as coach. I think most would agree this team needed a strong presence on the sidelines - Brown may have been a little too strong for them. I am not trying to hate on him but I definitely think there are a lot of reasons to have reservations about this guys ability to fix this situation moving forward.

I dont think Isiah made a mistake in taking him in as coach though - it was him or Jax and Jax wasnt coming so had he not signed Brown he would have been killed in the media.

[Edited by - OasisBU on 03-15-2006 6:56 PM]

lower caps now working..

at this stage in his coaching career, he's better off coaching a veteran team.. Brown is 65 yr of age and no longer have the patience for a young team..

If you look @ the teams he's had success, they were a savvy , hungry mentally tough team . mostly veterans..

the olyimpics wasn't his fault.. thats an issue witht the league selection of players.

it's more isiah's fault cause he did not obtain larry brown typed players. zeke decided to pick young athelic players who plays no defense and not strong minded.. most of them don't know how to react when being critcized by the coach via media.. ex. ariza. where is he now???

these players can't handle larry brown or his ways..

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3/15/2006  10:12 PM
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Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Posted by OasisBU:

While I have stated my case against Marbury I have to agree Brown has issues too. The first being that he is extremely overrated and the Olympics are a prime example of this. Is anyone surprised at this season? Brown may have a good resume but he also has tons of question marks too. The Championship and the return to the finals have pulled the wool over some peoples eyes about this guys true talent. Sure he makes teams better - but he is also destructive. If he is running some type of agenda to get Isiah out and himself into the GM spot - I give the man zero respect. He could have just gone somewhere else and gotten both jobs. You also dont sabotage a team for your ego, your agenda, etc.

There are many plusses and minuses to having Brown as coach. I think most would agree this team needed a strong presence on the sidelines - Brown may have been a little too strong for them. I am not trying to hate on him but I definitely think there are a lot of reasons to have reservations about this guys ability to fix this situation moving forward.

I dont think Isiah made a mistake in taking him in as coach though - it was him or Jax and Jax wasnt coming so had he not signed Brown he would have been killed in the media.

[Edited by - OasisBU on 03-15-2006 6:56 PM]

lower caps now working..

at this stage in his coaching career, he's better off coaching a veteran team.. Brown is 65 yr of age and no longer have the patience for a young team.. back then when he was younger, he took a college team to a championship.. right now , it's differnet..

If you look @ the teams he's had success, they were a savvy , hungry mentally tough team . mostly veterans..

the olyimpics wasn't his fault.. thats an issue witht the league's selection of players and how they run the system of preparing the US players... thats why they came up with a selection process where you would need to be committed to 2 yrs of your time..

it's more isiah's fault cause he did not obtain larry brown typed players. zeke decided to pick young athelic players who plays no defense and not strong minded.. most of them don't know how to react when being critcized by the coach via media.. ex. ariza. where is he now???

these players can't handle larry brown or his ways..

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3/15/2006  10:18 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

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Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Posted by OasisBU:

While I have stated my case against Marbury I have to agree Brown has issues too. The first being that he is extremely overrated and the Olympics are a prime example of this. Is anyone surprised at this season? Brown may have a good resume but he also has tons of question marks too. The Championship and the return to the finals have pulled the wool over some peoples eyes about this guys true talent. Sure he makes teams better - but he is also destructive. If he is running some type of agenda to get Isiah out and himself into the GM spot - I give the man zero respect. He could have just gone somewhere else and gotten both jobs. You also dont sabotage a team for your ego, your agenda, etc.

There are many plusses and minuses to having Brown as coach. I think most would agree this team needed a strong presence on the sidelines - Brown may have been a little too strong for them. I am not trying to hate on him but I definitely think there are a lot of reasons to have reservations about this guys ability to fix this situation moving forward.

I dont think Isiah made a mistake in taking him in as coach though - it was him or Jax and Jax wasnt coming so had he not signed Brown he would have been killed in the media.

[Edited by - OasisBU on 03-15-2006 6:56 PM]
lower caps now working..

at this stage in his coaching career, he's better off coaching a veteran team.. Brown is 65 yr of age and no longer have the patience for a young team.. back then when he was younger, he took a college team to a championship.. right now , it's differnet..

If you look @ the teams he's had success, they were a savvy , hungry mentally tough team . mostly veterans..

the olyimpics wasn't his fault.. thats an issue witht the league's selection of players and how they run the system of preparing the US players... thats why they came up with a selection process where you would need to be committed to 2 yrs of your time..

it's more isiah's fault cause he did not obtain larry brown typed players. zeke decided to pick young athelic players who plays no defense and not strong minded.. most of them don't know how to react when being critcized by the coach via media.. ex. ariza. where is he now???

these players can't handle larry brown or his ways..


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3/15/2006  10:52 PM
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3/15/2006  10:54 PM
Posted by nysoldier:

Dolan needs to blow this whole thing up and start all over

word to big bird. but keep the young guys though, I like them.
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3/15/2006  10:57 PM
Isiah's yoots don't suck

Keep them together

[Edited by - MisterEarl on 03-15-2006 10:57 PM]
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3/15/2006  10:58 PM
Dolan's a fool.. he's not gonna do anything but hope he can still make the $$$$. HE's a horrible owner who doesn't know how to run a sports franchise..

Only a buffoon would hire Isiah after he'd been fired.... JackA$$ owner didn't even check isiah's track record beforehand..

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3/16/2006  9:14 AM
nysoldier - Isiah also brought Jackie Butler, David Lee, Channing Frye, Qyntel Woods, Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson.

Or did you not enjoy last night?
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3/16/2006  9:43 AM
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3/16/2006  9:56 AM
Posted by misterearl:

nysoldier - Isiah also brought Jackie Butler, David Lee, Channing Frye, Qyntel Woods, Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson.

Or did you not enjoy last night?

Let's see that's a backup, backup, soft, backup dog killer, waste of space and a backup.

Great job building this franchise.
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3/16/2006  10:19 AM
rvhoss - you are my hero

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3/16/2006  10:22 AM
>>Let's see that's a backup, backup, soft, backup dog killer, waste of space and a backup.

70 bench points ... 62 in the paint!

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3/16/2006  10:44 AM
misterearl, no offense, but you are waaaaay too friggin' optimistic about an 18 win team.
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3/16/2006  10:52 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

misterearl, no offense, but you are waaaaay too friggin' optimistic about an 18 win team.
why.. all those losses were close. Not like we were getting blown out or anything
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3/16/2006  11:00 AM
My favorite was when Detroit came here. First time I EVER left a game early. I almost did it for the Denver game too, but I decided to move up real close, b/c basically everyone else left.
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3/16/2006  11:18 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

My favorite was when Detroit came here. First time I EVER left a game early. I almost did it for the Denver game too, but I decided to move up real close, b/c basically everyone else left.

Dude you have Mini-plan C? I was at those games too, and did the same thing. That Detriot game made me puke. And didn't leave the Denver game because I felt bad for having left the Detriot game.

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