Problem with K-Mart is he's hurt, and could be hurt for the long haul. His long term deal makes him untradable if hurt. Francis is available for a bargain price. We're not making the playoffs and we have 30 games to experiment with Marbury and Francis. If it doesn't work out, we can try to deal one in the offseason.

I agree that its not the type of player we should look to add, but with Isiah and Larry's apparent desire to have multiple PG's/ballhandlers they really need to figure out how to make it work. The matchup problems that we'd cause on O could outweight the matchup problem's we'd have on D. Or we could suck on both ends. Who knows. The price for the risk is attractive.

Im basing my outlook that K-mart needs time to heal and that long term he is fine.

Marrying a tough defender with Curry adds value to Curry.

Adding Francis to Marbury I think does not add value to either.

And as a trading asset, with his contract (Francis) your not getting full value back.

Who is gonna excell playing without the ball?

Posted by Nalod:

Im basing my outlook that K-mart needs time to heal and that long term he is fine.

Marrying a tough defender with Curry adds value to Curry.

Adding Francis to Marbury I think does not add value to either.

And as a trading asset, with his contract (Francis) your not getting full value back.

Who is gonna excell playing without the ball?

i say we go after all guys under 6 feet and play 48 minutes of hel l and hock 40 3s a game

c ty lue
f Nate the great
G speedy claxton
G Earl Boykins
G brevin knight
6thm damon stoudemire
g chucky atkins
G Andre barrett

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Nalod:

Im basing my outlook that K-mart needs time to heal and that long term he is fine.

Marrying a tough defender with Curry adds value to Curry.

Adding Francis to Marbury I think does not add value to either.

And as a trading asset, with his contract (Francis) your not getting full value back.

Who is gonna excell playing without the ball?

i say we go after all guys under 6 feet and play 48 minutes of hel l and hock 40 3s a game

c ty lue
f Nate the great
G speedy claxton
G Earl Boykins
G brevin knight
6thm damon stoudemire
g chucky atkins
G Andre barrett

Nate does the openning tip! Maybe he should do that right now for us anyway!

sad thing is, that team might have as many wins as the knicks

Posted by Nalod:

This isn't no used car lot! Francis plays a few good games and his value goes up? He has history and a contract. Its pretty transparent.

After about 25 games last year, people were talking about Francis being a starting all-star when he was playing great and his team was winning. People knew his history but thought he'd matured. I could see that happening again if he's playing with Garnett and Marbury and coached by Brown.

Posted by Nalod:

This isn't no used car lot! Francis plays a few good games and his value goes up? He has history and a contract. Its pretty transparent.

Kinda like when someone thought Nates value would go up if he won the Dunk show. Nates dunking ability does not make him a better ball handler, less wild, or better shot selector.

Maybe more marketable.

But in Isiahs world, everyone eventually becomes an ending contract!

Isiah, what about the downside of K-mart's health?

Well, he'll be a maximum ending contract in 2011 and by that time we feel we will have ramped up enough to get that 8 tseed and start the process of winning games in the playoffs. We anticipcate Shawn Marion becoming a FA then and we will have re-stocked our ability to trade unprotected-multiple draft picks once again

here's the crazy thing...if we end up with francis AND kg, then they actually did have a plan.

it sounds nuts but they did. they wanted to accumulate picks and big expiring deals so they can get superstar talent and to pair them up with larry brown to try to go for it all.

it may not be the best plan. i may not be a plan we all agree on. but, gulp, it actually is a plan.

but i think we all know deep down that it will blow up in our faces but that's besides the point.

Posted by tomverve:

Plan schman. Why is everyone obsessed with trying to find some plan? Consider this-- a GM could have a plan, but it could seem from his transactions as if he doesn't... or a GM could not have a plan, but it could seem from his transactions as if he does. Looking so feverishly for a single overarching plan in the latest set of trades (in the past, now, in the future) seems all too much like reading tea leaves. No wonder people get confused and disoriented.

hmmm, so a plan is not required when putting a team together? trying to get a bunch of players on the court to function as a unit along with a coach to help them achieve a goal does not need a plan?

maybe that's why we've been 30 games under .500 the past 5 years.

Posted by Bonn1997:

A plan is required. Having fans understand the whole plan at each stage of the process isn't.

as a season ticket holder, i would prefer having a more candid relationship with the organization. but think about the people that try to sell tickets and stuff. they have to sell the team over the phone. they're campaign this year was the rookies and they were going young and rebuilding. if they make these deals, then in effect, they lied to the paying customers. now they have to sell another team to get them to renew.

i know situations and circumstances change but i see other teams and how they operate and it's not like that. did you know that the indiana pacers organizations sends emails to season ticket holders many hours before they release anything to the press? (like signings, pickups, waives, etc.) did you know that kiki went to season ticket holders at a draft night party and announced the dice deal to them before anything was reported?