Well it's good to see that Isiah isn't going to let all this failure stop him. He just keeps proving that he has no plan, much less one that can even remotely be contrued as a "rebuilding" one. He continues with his asinine M.O. of ignoring the salary cap and looking to acquire any questionable player, regardless of how they fit. And now he's looking to transfer responsiblity for his moves to LB, claiming that he's acquiring "LB type players". What a F ing joke. Gee Isiah, I guess that means that you're absolved from all of this failure.

$34MM for the 22nd pick of the draft in a year where there is little depth after the first 8-10 picks. And it was nice to see Jalen Rose play over 40 minutes while the young players that we're supposed to be developing in this alleged rebuilding scam, uh I mean plan, are glued to the bench.

What he's doing now and what he's supposedly looking to do before the trade deadling is exactly why he needed to be fired last week. He's going to make as many riduculous trades as he can find just to make it look like he's doing something.

Aren't you people sick of Isiah, his and his fake smile yet? Hasn't he done enough, making this once proud organization the biggest laughingstock in the entire NBA? Hell, even Layden didn't sink to these depths no matter how much Isiah still loves to bring up what Layden left him. Of course, whoever replaces Isiah will be left with a lot less than what Layden left him. I'd rather have a $85MM payroll with all your draft picks than $125MM and no shot at a lottery pick in 3 of the next 5 years.

how is acquiring Jalen ignoring the salary cap? oh yea, i forgot about all that caproom we would have had if we just let AD expire... nice try.

Posted by jaydh:

how is acquiring Jalen ignoring the salary cap? oh yea, i forgot about all that caproom we would have had if we just let AD expire... nice try.

Hmmm, lower our cap number by $13MM or extend it another year by $17MM. That's a $30MM swing.

Isles, of the top teams in the league, only PHX built theirs by getting under the cap. SAS, IND, DAL, DET, NJN, MIN didn't use the cap. The only reason MIA got under the cap enough to sign Odom was one of their players forgot to file his player option papers.

I LOVE your example of Layden having an $85 million payroll and ALL your picks. He traded away three of his four first rounders. Meanwhile, Isiah has made four of the best draft picks this franchise has seen since the late 80s. Name a pick from the 90s outside of charlie ward.

Also, Layden's $85 payroll was spent primarily on role players and aging veterans. At least the guys Isiah brings in have a chance to develop into real players and they have their best years ahead of them.

Counterpoint

“I understand that winning is a process,” added Rose. “I learned that when I was young, watching how the Bulls had to take their lumps. It was the same with the Lakers and the Celtics. You don’t just come in and be a great team overnight. Getting that camaraderie with the guys, getting a set lineup, a set rotation, guys being familiar with one another, people sacrificing for each other, that takes time. Normally, you don’t get that job done in the first year and a half.”

People loving this Rose trade will be the same ones killing it in about 6 months. Its the same deal with every trade that Isiah makes. It looks good in the beginning.

Posted by misterearl:

Counterpoint

“I understand that winning is a process,” added Rose. “I learned that when I was young, watching how the Bulls had to take their lumps. It was the same with the Lakers and the Celtics. You don’t just come in and be a great team overnight. Getting that camaraderie with the guys, getting a set lineup, a set rotation, guys being familiar with one another, people sacrificing for each other, that takes time. Normally, you don’t get that job done in the first year and a half.”

when there's a roster overhaul over 6 months, with another major trade looming, how are they supposed to get familiar with one another? or are you convinced that this is the roster we're going to stick with for a little bit?

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by misterearl:

Counterpoint

“I understand that winning is a process,” added Rose. “I learned that when I was young, watching how the Bulls had to take their lumps. It was the same with the Lakers and the Celtics. You don’t just come in and be a great team overnight. Getting that camaraderie with the guys, getting a set lineup, a set rotation, guys being familiar with one another, people sacrificing for each other, that takes time. Normally, you don’t get that job done in the first year and a half.”

when there's a roster overhaul over 6 months, with another major trade looming, how are they supposed to get familiar with one another? or are you convinced that this is the roster we're going to stick with for a little bit?

DJ, who do you think wants roster moves more right now: Isiah or Larry Brown? I'm asking seriously. I think Larry has asked for vets.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by jaydh:

how is acquiring Jalen ignoring the salary cap? oh yea, i forgot about all that caproom we would have had if we just let AD expire... nice try.

Hmmm, lower our cap number by $13MM or extend it another year by $17MM. That's a $30MM swing.

oh wait, I know, how about turning Ewing's $20 million expiring deal into $85 million to Shandon Anderson, Howard Eisley and Luc Longley! Man, I bet you miss Layden.

Yeah, like that's the point. Funny but I don't remember EVER saying that I missed Layden or anything remotely like that. If I think Isiah sucks more than Layden it doesn't mean that Layden didn't suck.

Give me a break with calling Isiah's draft picks great. 1 projected starter who doesn't like to rebound, defend of mix it up inside, 2 role players at best and a stiff like Ariza is hardly great.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by ultknicks524:

People loving this Rose trade will be the same ones killing it in about 6 months. Its the same deal with every trade that Isiah makes. It looks good in the beginning.

you're right, when Denver misses the playoffs and we get a lottery pick in addition to the second best passer on the team for an ancient PF with the worst plus/minus in the league we will all kick ourselves and pine for the days of Layden going out and wooing Michael Doleac.

And when Denver doesn't miss the playoffs and Rose is taking more PT from these young players that we're supposed to be developing?