I'll post some trades I'd consider here since people were asking me on other threads. I'll rank them in the order I'd want to do them in. Some have very little chance, but the goal is just to find ONE GM willing to do a deal that works out well for us. I'll put the % chance I think the other GM might do the deal just so you get the idea that I don't think every one of these deals is likely to work but I do think one is. The first ones especially unlikely but they yield us great players (that's why they're high on the list!)

-5% Penny, Den 2006 #1 (same protection) and one of SA 2006 #1, Ariza, Nate, David Lee, Jackie Butler LA for Lamar Odom

-2% Penny, Den 2006 #1 (same protection) and any oneof SA 2006 #1, Ariza, Nate, David Lee, Jackie Butler for Rashard Lewis and Danny Fortson

-2% Penny, Den 2006 #1 (same protection) for Ray Allen and Danny Fortson

-20% Penny, Den #1 (lottery--6 to 14--protected for us) for Theo Ratliff and POR's unprotected 2006 #1. I might do the deal if Darius instead of the lottery pick were included and something else were included to sweeten the deal, but I'd rank the deal much lower.

-10% Penny, Ariza, Butler for Adonal Foyle, Derek Fisher, 2006 #1 unprotected (pick #11 right now), Diogu, and Pietrus. (We're giving them huge cap room that they otherwise won't have 'til 2009/2010). I'd do this ONLY if Dolan would let us buyout Foyle or Fisher ala Shandon Anderson.

-40% Penny and any one of Denver 2006 #1 (same protection), Ariza, Nate, David Lee, Jackie Butler for Steve Francis

-25% Penny for Ty Chandler. (I actually proposed this deal a few weeks ago when Ty's trade value was a lot lower). Denver can get two players with their lottery picks who give them the same Ty does for one fifth the price each.

-2% Penny for Chris Webber and Philly's 2006 #1 (highly doubt they do this) but they might want to get out of C Webb's contract.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 02-06-2006 6:00 PM]

Brian Grant is on PHX now.....he has been hurt....

That is too much for Odom, IMO.....

I like the Chandler trade (but if we start collecting bigs I am worried that none of them will have time to develop here)...

That first trade....I would do I wouldn't include the Denver #1, but if I did I would want Jarrett Jack back in that trade with Ratliff and the unprotected #1.

i like the first trade.

hell no to the second (Odom's not even close to being good enough to give up 4 1st round picks for essentially).

i'd do #3 in a heartbeat, but no way GS gives up Pietrus & Diogu unless they're getting back a legit allstar player.

no thanks to Ty Chandler... i'd rather take a risk on KMart, knees & all if i had to choose.

CWebb's been playing great for Philly... why would they want out of his contract when they just traded for him?

[Edited by - TMS on 02-06-2006 1:34 PM]

Martin, Harrington, Miles...that is the order I chase those guys in.

TMS: hell no to the second (Odom's not even close to being good enough to give up 4 1st round picks for essentially).

It's TWO LATE first round picks essentially. Here's what I proposed with bold, capitalized font to make it clearer:

Penny, Den 2006 #1 (same protection) and ONE of SA 2006 #1, Ariza, Nate, David Lee, Jackie Butler LA for Lamar Odom

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 02-06-2006 4:17 PM]

Posted by Bonn1997:

TMS: hell no to the second (Odom's not even close to being good enough to give up 4 1st round picks for essentially).

It's TWO LATE first round picks essentially. Here's what I proposed with bold, capitalized font to make it clearer:

Penny, Den 2006 #1 (same protection) and ONE of SA 2006 #1, Ariza, Nate, David Lee, Jackie Butler LA for Lamar Odom

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 02-06-2006 4:17 PM]

don't be a snit... i missed that last part... thought u uwanted to give up all those guys for Odom.

[Edited by - TMS on 02-06-2006 4:26 PM]

Penny, DEN's pick & any 1 of those other options but not David Lee for Odom i'm fine with... but i doubt LA does it.

I added three more possible deals and added some more info. about each deal

Posted by joec32033:

Lewis and Fortson Yes
Allen and Fortson No
Steve Francis trade no

The Francis trade was toward the bottom of my list.
Ray Allen, though, is such a smart player and he spreads the floor great. I think he'd really improve the play of our young players, particularly Eddy and Channing.

Ray should have a few more all-star level years and then some role-player level years left in him. I was only talking about giving up Penny and a mid to late 1st rd pick for him, not sacrificing the entire youth movement. Maybe I'd move that deal down a little lower on the list, though, because Ray is 30. Fortson's only a throw in to make the salaries match. I wouldn't be acquiring him because I expected any significant role on the team for him.

lol... Penny & Ariza for Francis & a conditional #1? i dunno, i'm not sure that's fair for the Knicks... i say Isiah should hold out for Dwight Howard too, just to be safe.