give them ender Ariza + nate--they need a PG for steve francis. Id rather keep the pick and go in a different direction with longer players. We may need a back up 4+5 in the draft if we complete this deal.

Posted by TheloniusMonk:

I agree but it seems like Orlando has other options that may be much better than Penny and a pick

that pick we just traded a billion $ for will go to sht if they get steve francis. to much star power to sck in what has become a weak west. their stuck will greg buckner starting--change that to steve francis and give up nobody, they will improve dramatically because they have a superstar in carmello. carmello by himself saved that game with the extra added help of TERRIBLE ballhandling by TB-- denver all buy lost that one and found a miracle. i dont want to help denver so we ned up with theo ratliff and watson!

Posted by DarkKnicks:

I may be the only one that thinks that Marbury and Fracis together wont work, even less with this coach.

[Edited by - DarkKnicks on 02-05-2006 08:53 AM]

if one of them were an iversen--and or a ballhog, Id say you're right. But they are both willing passers and with better passers comes better ball movement

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by DarkKnicks:

I may be the only one that thinks that Marbury and Fracis together wont work, even less with this coach.

[Edited by - DarkKnicks on 02-05-2006 08:53 AM]

if one of them were an iversen--and or a ballhog, Id say you're right. But they are both willing passers and with better passers comes better ball movement

That's true, but both are very inconsistent shooters. I don't know BRIGGS... if we had Radmanovic or a player like him, it could be very interesting though.

Francis is a headache I'd rather avoid. I'd rather get dependable veterans with good character or young players with upside.

neither

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Francis is a headache I'd rather avoid. I'd rather get dependable veterans with good character or young players with upside.

I am pretty sure they were saying those same exact things about Mr. Marbury before he came here and while he was here. I am not a Francis fan in any way, shape or form, but he could be able to help out.

I agree he could help out. I'd be very excited about the possibilities if he came here, but I'd be targetting other players that I've described in other threads.

Posted by tomverve:

Yes let's trade for a 6'3" shooting guard with a huge long term contract who duplicates the skills of our PG, except that he's a worse passer and his jumper is so awful that his jump shooting % is worse than Quentin Richardson's

No thanks

i dont know about you pro guys, but Ill take steve francis over theo ratliff and earl watson 10,000 times over.

for some reason, I think Steve Francis is just a bit better than Q-rich, i dont know maybe im not adding the efg% right. Nah, Ill stick with franchise.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by tomverve:

Yes let's trade for a 6'3" shooting guard with a huge long term contract who duplicates the skills of our PG, except that he's a worse passer and his jumper is so awful that his jump shooting % is worse than Quentin Richardson's

No thanks

i dont know about you pro guys, but Ill take steve francis over theo ratliff and earl watson 10,000 times over.

for some reason, I think Steve Francis is just a bit better than Q-rich, i dont know maybe im not adding the efg% right. Nah, Ill stick with franchise.

How can you possibly continue to justify a Steve Francis trade by comparing it to Earl Watson and Theo Ratliff? That's like saying "I'll take Jerome James over druggie Chris Anderson; thus, JJ was a good signing" Or "I'll take Eddy Curry over 5 Kwame Browns; thus, I'd trade 5 first picks of the 1st rd for Eddy." You can make any deal look good if you take full freedom to use whatever players you want as the comparison.