Why? Same exact logic as the AD move.

For those that don't like the AD move, lol you won't like this one.
For those that liked the AD move, all the same reasons to do this one apply.

Gives us three first round picks for Isiah to package in trades or use himself.

A lot of talk that Penny wil be moveds to PORTLAND for Theo. I hope not. We don't need Theo and his long term deal. I'd even like to see isiah dump some of our bad deals on other teams and maybe use these new picks to help convince them to do it.

Memphis is a playoff team.. I dont see how that really helps them

Would drop them from 56mil to 41mil next season, and if they can find takers for a couple other guys they can have decent cap room above the MLE level.

And you're right, they'd be in the playoffs if the season ended today as the 6th seed. 4 games in front of the 9 seed.

They could be swept in the first round if they make this deal or not.

Nice job! I look for stuff like this all the time until I literally fall asleep at my computer some nights (lately I've been looking at ways that we might be able to ship Mo Taylor outta here for short-term deal(s) and draft pick(s) - maybe to a playoff-bound team that could use some frontcourt scoring down low) but I never thought of this one. You came up with a good one! Makes some sense. I hear what you guys are saying about Memphis being a playoff team and Eddie being a seasoned veteran and a big part of that, no question, but I really think it might be something Jerry West might consider... Right off the top, trading Eddie Jones would open up more time for Warrick to play as the primary swingman behind or with Battier and Mike Miller (Eddie Jones takes minutes away from Warrick, bottom line, and I bet that doesn't sit well with a lot of Memphis fans, much like most of us around here think guys like M. Rose and Taylor shouldn't be cutting into PT for guys like Lee and Butler). Plus, Stoudamire's got some miles on him now and he went down with a pretty bad injury, so ya figure the Griz probably want to free up as much money as they can so they have a shot at re-uping some of their young PG talent like Raul Lopez, Troy Bell and/or Antonio Burks. Also, that team developed some pretty good chemistry after Damon went down and you gotta chaulk that up to guys like Bobby Jackson and the recently-acquired Chucky Atkins holding the fort down - do they bring these guys back? Then there's Lorenzen Wright. Do they bring him back? Outside of Gasol, there's not a whole hellava lot of size on that team. I'd say cap room has got to be a chief concern for Jerry West...
For the Knicks, they get an instant upgrade at SG with Jones who is owed a lot of money but, like Jalen's deal, it's short-term which is key. As far as I'm concerned the Knicks can increase the friggin' payroll to 300 mil. for all I care as long as I know going in that these short-term deals all expire around the same time. Acquiring big-money, short-term deals are really not that big a deal as long as those deals keep in line, expiration-wise, with contracts we already have in place here ready to expire - as long as these deals expire around the same time, who cares if we have 2 or 20 bad contracts, I mean really... Just letting guys like Penny and Antonio walk would do nothing for us right now or for next season. Instead, we got a chance to turn them into draft compensation. Speaking off, the Knicks would get another 1st round pick, probably in the 20-25 by the time this season's over. These picks are the best way we got to improve over the next few years, considering we can't do anything cap-wise - not yet. In the meantime, keep looking for ways to stockpile young talent. Again, good job Kam. I like it!

Posted by gunsnewing:

I proposed this trade a couple of weeks ago. its definitely something we should explore as opposed to letting Penny's contract expire or trading for a lonnng term salary like Ratliff. Jones would really help our perimeter D.

whats so bad about just letting penny expire? not saying thats what will happen, but i dont see the problem with it.

Posted by Marv:

Posted by jaydh:


whats so bad about just letting penny expire? not saying thats what will happen, but i dont see the problem with it.

Because apparently the only way this franchise can try to convey a sense of progress is by continuing to add marginal players with huge salaries and draft picks.

It's starting to look more like a longshot to me that it's actually going to work.

well, it looks like progress to me, having 76mil coming off the books this season and next combined.

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by gunsnewing:

I proposed this trade a couple of weeks ago. its definitely something we should explore as opposed to letting Penny's contract expire or trading for a lonnng term salary like Ratliff. Jones would really help our perimeter D.

whats so bad about just letting penny expire? not saying thats what will happen, but i dont see the problem with it.

pointless imo. there's absolutely zero chance we'll be under the cap next year so why not get rent another player who can help us this year and have another 1st RD pick to dangle

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by jaydh:

Posted by gunsnewing:

I proposed this trade a couple of weeks ago. its definitely something we should explore as opposed to letting Penny's contract expire or trading for a lonnng term salary like Ratliff. Jones would really help our perimeter D.

whats so bad about just letting penny expire? not saying thats what will happen, but i dont see the problem with it.

pointless imo. there's absolutely zero chance we'll be under the cap next year so why not get rent another player who can help us this year and have another 1st RD pick to dangle

its not 0 chance that we will be under in 07/08. i have no problem dealing penny for a contract 1 yr longer, but i also have no problem just letting him expire now. besides, if we are re-signing butler, woods, and possibly ariza, we'll need the roster space for the 2 draft picks.

Posted by Finestrg:


Because we have a chance to turn him into instant draft compensation

and i agree with that, as long as the contract we take on is one 1 year longer. i've just looked over and over through teams and their players contracts, and those teams who may have a player that is signed 1 year longer than penny, i dont see them trading their first to unload the player or that team doesnt want to move that player in the first place. i guess i just dont see who we could trade penny for.

Posted by gunsnewing:

or we can just fire Isiah because he is an idiot and we're moving in quicksand. great future we have

Aye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the move should be marbury + ariza for eddie jones

why?

gives them a real pg to pair with gasol (with miller, battier, etc as the supporting cast).

we FINALLY get WAY under the cap in 07.