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With the first pick in the NBA draft the NY Knicks select Adam Morrison F Gonzaga
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BRIGGS
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1/26/2006  11:12 AM
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1/26/2006  11:12 AM
At this point, I'm only concerned about the 2007 draft.
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1/26/2006  11:15 AM
With the first pick in the NBA draft the NY Knicks select Greg Oden
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1/26/2006  11:20 AM
I've been thinking about this and I don't have a problem with isiah trading this year's unrestricted- he should have stipulated that if this year's was a lotto pick, then the swap next year was off. I think Pax could have accepted that.
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1/26/2006  11:21 AM
Isiah has proven to be a poor negotiator.
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1/26/2006  11:24 AM
Some people don't know how to let things go.. this must keep you up at night.
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1/26/2006  11:25 AM
yes, it does.
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Posted by franco12:

I've been thinking about this and I don't have a problem with isiah trading this year's unrestricted- he should have stipulated that if this year's was a lotto pick, then the swap next year was off. I think Pax could have accepted that.


Last time i say this, but really--what wouldve been wrong with a top 5 protected pick and no swappy thing next year? Were teams breaking down Chicago's door for a player that was not insurable and no one touched in free agency? why did we bid against ourselves again? why couldnt we be more patient.

If I say the top 5 guys
Morrison
Aldridge
Gay
Carney
Sheld Williams

couldnt we use 1 of these guys?
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1/26/2006  11:36 AM
Posted by OAK:

With the first pick in the NBA draft the NY Knicks select Greg Oden


With the first pick the CHICAGO BULLS select............
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Posted by Nalod:
Posted by OAK:

With the first pick in the NBA draft the NY Knicks select Greg Oden


With the first pick the CHICAGO BULLS select............

Oh, yeah. My bad.
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1/26/2006  12:32 PM
>Rich - Isiah has proven to be a poor negotiator.

Yeah, he really botched signing Larry Brown. Sheesh. What negotiations are you referring to exactly?

What next? Isiah makes a poor dinner guest?
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1/26/2006  12:40 PM
Isiah did a poor job of not protecting the lotto pick at leats in the top five. You can't deny that. Knicks were the only team in a position to land Curry, so Isiah negotiated against himself. No need to give them this years lotto, and possible next years.

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Posted by bigbeast:

Isiah did a poor job of not protecting the lotto pick at leats in the top five. You can't deny that. Knicks were the only team in a position to land Curry, so Isiah negotiated against himself. No need to give them this years lotto, and possible next years.

This is why Isiah should be fired. He is an awful GM who has increased payroll and the team got worse.
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Posted by misterearl:

>Rich - Isiah has proven to be a poor negotiator.

Yeah, he really botched signing Larry Brown. Sheesh. What negotiations are you referring to exactly?

What next? Isiah makes a poor dinner guest?


Jerome James & Vin Baker were horrible FA signings by Isiah... i don't think even the most avid Isiah supporter can argue against that.
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1/26/2006  1:27 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by franco12:

I've been thinking about this and I don't have a problem with isiah trading this year's unrestricted- he should have stipulated that if this year's was a lotto pick, then the swap next year was off. I think Pax could have accepted that.


Last time i say this, but really--what wouldve been wrong with a top 5 protected pick and no swappy thing next year? Were teams breaking down Chicago's door for a player that was not insurable and no one touched in free agency? why did we bid against ourselves again? why couldnt we be more patient.

If I say the top 5 guys
Morrison
Aldridge
Gay
Carney
Sheld Williams

couldnt we use 1 of these guys?

I don't mind him not protecting the pick- he fully expected to be better and a top five pick isn't bad compenstation for Curry. But, he should have put a condition on the 07 pick that there would be no swap if the 06 was a lotto pick.
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1/26/2006  2:22 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by franco12:

I've been thinking about this and I don't have a problem with isiah trading this year's unrestricted- he should have stipulated that if this year's was a lotto pick, then the swap next year was off. I think Pax could have accepted that.


Last time i say this, but really--what wouldve been wrong with a top 5 protected pick and no swappy thing next year? Were teams breaking down Chicago's door for a player that was not insurable and no one touched in free agency? why did we bid against ourselves again? why couldnt we be more patient.

If I say the top 5 guys
Morrison
Aldridge
Gay
Carney
Sheld Williams

couldnt we use 1 of these guys?

I am not losing any sleep over not being able to draft any of those guys, especially sheldon williams, he doesn't impress me at all..
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/26/2006  2:29 PM
I'm just worried about next year's draft. We have to do whatever it takes to be better than the Bulls next year, because the ultimate blow would be us sucking again next year and Chicago landing Oden
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1/26/2006  7:53 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by franco12:

I've been thinking about this and I don't have a problem with isiah trading this year's unrestricted- he should have stipulated that if this year's was a lotto pick, then the swap next year was off. I think Pax could have accepted that.


Last time i say this, but really--what wouldve been wrong with a top 5 protected pick and no swappy thing next year? Were teams breaking down Chicago's door for a player that was not insurable and no one touched in free agency? why did we bid against ourselves again? why couldnt we be more patient.

If I say the top 5 guys
Morrison
Aldridge
Gay
Carney
Sheld Williams

couldnt we use 1 of these guys?

I am not losing any sleep over not being able to draft any of those guys, especially sheldon williams, he doesn't impress me at all..



Yeah, me neither. Dont want Morrison--slow white guy--man he cant play nba basketball--oh and especially sheldan williams he stinks we couldnt use him on our roster jackie butler is better than him rudy gau hes got nothing on trevor ariza i mean we have all seen trevor monster jam on ben wallace you're right our players are great, we dont really need anyone we got all the bases covered.
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1/26/2006  8:27 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by franco12:

I've been thinking about this and I don't have a problem with isiah trading this year's unrestricted- he should have stipulated that if this year's was a lotto pick, then the swap next year was off. I think Pax could have accepted that.


Last time i say this, but really--what wouldve been wrong with a top 5 protected pick and no swappy thing next year? Were teams breaking down Chicago's door for a player that was not insurable and no one touched in free agency? why did we bid against ourselves again? why couldnt we be more patient.

If I say the top 5 guys
Morrison
Aldridge
Gay
Carney
Sheld Williams

couldnt we use 1 of these guys?

I am not losing any sleep over not being able to draft any of those guys, especially sheldon williams, he doesn't impress me at all..



Yeah, me neither. Dont want Morrison--slow white guy--man he cant play nba basketball--oh and especially sheldan williams he stinks we couldnt use him on our roster jackie butler is better than him rudy gau hes got nothing on trevor ariza i mean we have all seen trevor monster jam on ben wallace you're right our players are great, we dont really need anyone we got all the bases covered.


Briggs I don't want sheldon williams at the expense of curry, neither do I want Morrison or gay at the expense of curry, that is the point, now if we didn't have curry, then we could use any warm body that would suit up for us, especially if we were a lottery team again. Understand? If we didn't have curry and drafted morrison we would need a center? right? so What the hell are you talking about Briggs?!!
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Posted by tkf:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by franco12:

I've been thinking about this and I don't have a problem with isiah trading this year's unrestricted- he should have stipulated that if this year's was a lotto pick, then the swap next year was off. I think Pax could have accepted that.


Last time i say this, but really--what wouldve been wrong with a top 5 protected pick and no swappy thing next year? Were teams breaking down Chicago's door for a player that was not insurable and no one touched in free agency? why did we bid against ourselves again? why couldnt we be more patient.

If I say the top 5 guys
Morrison
Aldridge
Gay
Carney
Sheld Williams

couldnt we use 1 of these guys?

I am not losing any sleep over not being able to draft any of those guys, especially sheldon williams, he doesn't impress me at all..



Yeah, me neither. Dont want Morrison--slow white guy--man he cant play nba basketball--oh and especially sheldan williams he stinks we couldnt use him on our roster jackie butler is better than him rudy gau hes got nothing on trevor ariza i mean we have all seen trevor monster jam on ben wallace you're right our players are great, we dont really need anyone we got all the bases covered.


Briggs I don't want sheldon williams at the expense of curry, neither do I want Morrison or gay at the expense of curry, that is the point, now if we didn't have curry, then we could use any warm body that would suit up for us, especially if we were a lottery team again. Understand? If we didn't have curry and drafted morrison we would need a center? right? so What the hell are you talking about Briggs?!!

Read the thread dude. Im saying we SHOULD have had TOp 5 protection on the pick, we shouldve been patient, NO team was giving Curry anything near what NY gave him, nor was any team giving up a solid young prospcet a number 1 and 2 number 2s. No reason to make it unprotected and no reason to swap picks. this was an act of stupidity--they thought that they were going to be good and they were wrong. Having some sort of protection is like insurance--and when you dont buy insurance you get fcked like we will.

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