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FireIsiah
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1/22/2006  1:08 AM
Why does everyone think this guy is gonna be good? Every game I watch, he shows no defensive skills, can't rebound and cannot shoot and he is FAT!!!!! All of his points are from 3 feet from the basket. I'm sorry but i'd rather have sweetney and our lottery pick back. Morrison,Aldridge or Gay will be better players than Curry will ever be.
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1/22/2006  1:10 AM
Posted by FireIsiah:

Why does everyone think this guy is gonna be good? Every game I watch, he shows no defensive skills, can't rebound and cannot shoot and he is FAT!!!!! All of his points are from 3 feet from the basket. I'm sorry but i'd rather have sweetney and our lottery pick back. Morrison,Aldridge or Gay will be better players than Curry will ever be.

Have you seen Sweetney lately?
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1/22/2006  1:14 AM
I too think Curry has a lonnng way to go and I'd much rather be banking on a proven player, but Eddy is a center if he ever figures it out, the trade will be so rewarding. Plus this draft is weak and we have to be better next year based on frye, lee & Nate having a year under their belts alone.
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1/22/2006  2:32 AM
Posted by gunsnewing:

I too think Curry has a lonnng way to go and I'd much rather be banking on a proven player, but Eddy is a center if he ever figures it out, the trade will be so rewarding. Plus this draft is weak and we have to be better next year based on frye, lee & Nate having a year under their belts alone.

how much if any will Frye Lee Nate be better than

Carter RJ and Krstic
Igoudala Korver and Dalembert
West Jefferson and Perkins
Charlie V Graham and Calderon

and then there is Chi

Deng Gordon Hinrich Nocioni Songaila Chandler. They may add 2 top 13 picks to that core plus they have 20 mill in cap. Paxson is not Krause so please save the "they've been rebuilding for 7 years" mumbo. Pax targets quality young guys and like Colangelo, has Zeke on speed dial for guys that don't fit the program

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1/22/2006  3:22 AM
They don't have to be superstars. once we do what it takes to bring in a legitimate championship calibur player everything will fall into place.
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1/22/2006  8:30 AM
Posted by FireIsiah:

Why does everyone think this guy is gonna be good? Every game I watch, he shows no defensive skills, can't rebound and cannot shoot and he is FAT!!!!! All of his points are from 3 feet from the basket. I'm sorry but i'd rather have sweetney and our lottery pick back. Morrison,Aldridge or Gay will be better players than Curry will ever be.
you must have your head turned away when he's scoring at 55% from the field (5th in the league).

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1/22/2006  8:46 AM
Eddy has huge weaknesses he needs to work on but he's improving. He's only 23 and putting up 17 and 7 on 57% in January. He's rebounding better than he has at any point in his career. He's not fat but he does need to lose about 15 lbs. I'd use a word like fat to describe Sweetney, Weatherspoon, Tractor Trailer, but not someone who's only 10 or 15 lbs overweight like Eddy.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 01-22-2006 08:46 AM]
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Posted by fishmike:

[quote]Posted by FireIsiah:

Why does everyone think this guy is gonna be good? Every game I watch, he shows no defensive skills, can't rebound and cannot shoot and he is FAT!!!!! All of his points are from 3 feet from the basket. I'm sorry but i'd rather have sweetney and our lottery pick back. Morrison,Aldridge or Gay will be better players than Curry will ever be.
you must have your head turned away when he's scoring at 55% from the field (5th in the league).


Defense is also part of an evaluation. If you are getting 17 points, that greta and all, but if you are leavuing the lane open like an open door, those points dont mean as much. He lacks a certain intrinsic value, much more flash than fury. Now, he can be a part of something, there is no doubt, but it may end up that we get a PF who is a defensive force and use Frye off the bench to make it work. somewhere there has to be a change--its not acceptable to give up over 100 points every game, we will not be a winning team any YEAR soon if we do that. doesnt matter if curry scores 25 and 15 or whatever number you pencil in, if we cant stop the other team, it will be scoring duels.
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1/22/2006  9:24 AM
We know that Curry isn't the 2nd coming of Shaq. He has a lot to learn but like Fishmike wrote, he's averaging 15 and 7 at 55% that makes him more than adequate with a lot of upside. Now the reason for my post: I'm not understanding why Curry only played 25 minutes and only had 6 shot attempts when he was 3 for 3 in the first 5 minutes of the game!! I know that Craw and Nate aren't consumate point guards but doesn't LB tell to guys to feed Curry? He's only averaging 10 shots a game. Did the Knicks pay him all that money to only give him 10 shots a game? He should be getting 17 to 20 shots a game, at his current shot percentage, he'd average 20 a night. I was listening to the game on the net and I just couldn't take it anymore after 3 quarters....it felt like they weren't trying. We have 4 legitimate scoring options and LB just doesn't use them properly.....anyway that's my rant!!!
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1/22/2006  10:11 AM
I think Curry can improve his defense, but we also need a quick-footed young shot-blocking PF/C playing next to him. It doesn't have to be anything close to a star. Just a role player. Eddie Griffin, Stro Swift. Stephen Hunter or Diop would have been adequate short-term solutions. Tyson Chandler might still be a good choice but the Bulls would have to throw something in to make it worthwhile.
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1/22/2006  10:22 AM
Posted by Travla:

We know that Curry isn't the 2nd coming of Shaq. He has a lot to learn but like Fishmike wrote, he's averaging 15 and 7 at 55% that makes him more than adequate with a lot of upside. Now the reason for my post: I'm not understanding why Curry only played 25 minutes and only had 6 shot attempts when he was 3 for 3 in the first 5 minutes of the game!! I know that Craw and Nate aren't consumate point guards but doesn't LB tell to guys to feed Curry? He's only averaging 10 shots a game. Did the Knicks pay him all that money to only give him 10 shots a game? He should be getting 17 to 20 shots a game, at his current shot percentage, he'd average 20 a night. I was listening to the game on the net and I just couldn't take it anymore after 3 quarters....it felt like they weren't trying. We have 4 legitimate scoring options and LB just doesn't use them properly.....anyway that's my rant!!!

LB always takes him out in the first hslf when he picks up a second foul b/c he i not a guy you can trust not to pick up a 3rd.

as far as shot attempts go, NOK did a very good job denying him the only move he feels comfortable making , that post left and sweep right for a dunk or lay-up. Curry relies to heavily on being bigger than the man he is guarding. Smart long defendes like Brown and Bogut have been able to take him out oof his comfort zone. Once they did that the trap on his post ups have become super effective because Curry doesn't pass the ball.
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1/22/2006  12:12 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by gunsnewing:

I too think Curry has a lonnng way to go and I'd much rather be banking on a proven player, but Eddy is a center if he ever figures it out, the trade will be so rewarding. Plus this draft is weak and we have to be better next year based on frye, lee & Nate having a year under their belts alone.

how much if any will Frye Lee Nate be better than

Carter RJ and Krstic
Igoudala Korver and Dalembert
West Jefferson and Perkins
Charlie V Graham and Calderon

and then there is Chi

Deng Gordon Hinrich Nocioni Songaila Chandler. They may add 2 top 13 picks to that core plus they have 20 mill in cap. Paxson is not Krause so please save the "they've been rebuilding for 7 years" mumbo. Pax targets quality young guys and like Colangelo, has Zeke on speed dial for guys that don't fit the program


with the exception of NJ all those teams are losing like the knicks. and Carter has how many good years ahead of him??

Korver? did you mention Korver? geez man..

Boston's players? outside of west who is playing out of position none of those other guys are starting and losing time to bad players such as blount.

why is it that all knicks fans look at the other teams situation which is equally as bad as ours and sees gold?

Toronto? come on man, Can you say with a straight face their rookies are better than ours? my lord...
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Posted by McK1:
Posted by Travla:

We know that Curry isn't the 2nd coming of Shaq. He has a lot to learn but like Fishmike wrote, he's averaging 15 and 7 at 55% that makes him more than adequate with a lot of upside. Now the reason for my post: I'm not understanding why Curry only played 25 minutes and only had 6 shot attempts when he was 3 for 3 in the first 5 minutes of the game!! I know that Craw and Nate aren't consumate point guards but doesn't LB tell to guys to feed Curry? He's only averaging 10 shots a game. Did the Knicks pay him all that money to only give him 10 shots a game? He should be getting 17 to 20 shots a game, at his current shot percentage, he'd average 20 a night. I was listening to the game on the net and I just couldn't take it anymore after 3 quarters....it felt like they weren't trying. We have 4 legitimate scoring options and LB just doesn't use them properly.....anyway that's my rant!!!

LB always takes him out in the first hslf when he picks up a second foul b/c he i not a guy you can trust not to pick up a 3rd.

as far as shot attempts go, NOK did a very good job denying him the only move he feels comfortable making , that post left and sweep right for a dunk or lay-up. Curry relies to heavily on being bigger than the man he is guarding. Smart long defendes like Brown and Bogut have been able to take him out oof his comfort zone. Once they did that the trap on his post ups have become super effective because Curry doesn't pass the ball.


really? so we ignore the two wild passes in a row Q woods threw to him in the post and then the next trip down another bad pass sailed out of bounds, that is three touches with single coverage, we could not get him the ball, after that the lead went to double digits. I have no problem with our bigs at all, I like curry, lee and frye, but outside of marbs and I am seeing this now, no one can get these guys the ball, it is starting to frustrate them, you can see it on their faces..
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1/22/2006  12:21 PM
Posted by FireIsiah:

Why does everyone think this guy is gonna be good? Every game I watch, he shows no defensive skills, can't rebound and cannot shoot and he is FAT!!!!! All of his points are from 3 feet from the basket. I'm sorry but i'd rather have sweetney and our lottery pick back. Morrison,Aldridge or Gay will be better players than Curry will ever be.


comments like this are foolish to me, no offense, but they are just foolish, really have you watched any of these guys play? and do any of them play center?

I'm sorry but i'd rather have sweetney and our lottery pick back.

And guess what, the bulls would rather give us the pick back and have curry. Really the fans are wanting to trade both picks to get a big man.... how ironic...
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1/22/2006  12:32 PM
I would have rather kept Sweets and the picks and tanked this season (as we are now) to get Aldridge.

Can't win in this league if atleast 1 of your big men cant rebound and defend...

[Edited by - bobs3304 on 01-22-2006 12:32 PM]
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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Posted by tkf:




with the exception of NJ all those teams are losing like the knicks. and Carter has how many good years ahead of him??

Korver? did you mention Korver? geez man..

Boston's players? outside of west who is playing out of position none of those other guys are starting and losing time to bad players such as blount.

why is it that all knicks fans look at the other teams situation which is equally as bad as ours and sees gold?

Toronto? come on man, Can you say with a straight face their rookies are better than ours? my lord...

Perk starts and is playing well. Jefferson is a highschooler and has the inside-outside game you love in a young 4. Doc's coaching techniques are hindering the high-schoolers but as Isiah apologists like to chime, it takes a little longer for a big man so its OK if they are not completely there yet.

Korver is better than any 3 on the Knicks. His numbers have improved every year. this season 11pts 4 rebs 2.6assts 44% fr 2 - 45% fr 3- 82% fr the line. Not bad for the 51st pick. Is Ariza Woods or any other 3 were getting anywhere close to those numbers?

Charlie V's "ceiling" is just as high as Frye's if not higher. 1 things for sure Villanueva doesn't look like he is on stilts when asked to put the ball on the floor. He has just as much range as Frye and is infinitely more mobile.

all those other teams have their picks (some have multiple) and are not grossly over the cap until the end of the decade.

[Edited by - McK1 on 01-22-2006 12:32 PM]
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really? so we ignore the two wild passes in a row Q woods threw to him in the post and then the next trip down another bad pass sailed out of bounds, that is three touches with single coverage, we could not get him the ball, after that the lead went to double digits. I have no problem with our bigs at all, I like curry, lee and frye, but outside of marbs and I am seeing this now, no one can get these guys the ball, it is starting to frustrate them, you can see it on their faces..

3 possessions. I can play this game.

how about in the 4th when he posted 3 straight times on the left block. He shot some 1 handed thing that hit the other side of the backboard from 6 feet out and also had 2 traveling violations called on him. He tried to spin using Brown as a balance. PJ simply moved.
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1/22/2006  12:39 PM
hmm, if we didn't have Curry against Detroit our team wouldn't have cracked 50pts. and he hasn't been playing with his PG and leader. and he hasn't had AD, the guy who he's played beside all year and who helps him on D. But, you know what, you're right, we need to trade him for anything immediately! waa!
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1/22/2006  12:44 PM
weren't you one of the people saying sit AD. Now you're going to blame Curry not stepping up because Davis isn't out there?

tsk tsk...

No AD his rebounding numbers should reflect it. Thats what usually happens with guys who care and are committed to winning. Curry had 1 rebound going into the 4th last night. Paul had like 5 or 6.
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1/22/2006  12:56 PM
Posted by McK1:

weren't you one of the people saying sit AD. Now you're going to blame Curry not stepping up because Davis isn't out there?

tsk tsk...

No AD his rebounding numbers should reflect it. Thats what usually happens with guys who care and are committed to winning. Curry had 1 rebound going into the 4th last night. Paul had like 5 or 6.

Hey, it sounds like that PG you love to hate, Mr. Stephon Marbury just might have a bigger effect on an NBA game than you were willing to admit.

Yes, I admit, during the rough stretch I thought AD had to go, but he has been playing better lately and I think he is pretty valuable as far as settling down the rotation and playing tough on D. Also, the kids need a strong veteran leader like that. I think he has value that transcends what he can actually do on the court.

But I like the fact that you can look past all the reasons for why stuff is happening and just complain about what you are watching.
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