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Killa4luv
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1/9/2006  4:42 AM
5 rebounds is totally unacceptable.

Granted these guys shoot alot of bombs which give off long rebounds, but I saw times when he had position and Petro got the rebound over his back. For most of the game he had 3 boards. we wont win most games giving up that many boards, especially not to a team that shoots as well as them.

Having said that, Eddy has been phenomenal, and what excites me the most is he isn't even close to where he should be yet. His 20 points were a slow night for him considering what he could be doing. I am so happy we have this guy. Steph feeding him in the beginning of the game was really wonderful to watch.

And he is slimming down, even my wife noticed: "Eddy Curry is losing weight right?"
"yes baby, its called conditioning, he's getting his body into game shape. When he does, the knicks will be unstoppable."

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 01-09-2006 04:43 AM]
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1/9/2006  6:35 AM
The main reason his rebounds were down so much was because he was constantly in foul trouble so on the pine he went. I think he had 3 offensive rebounds of which all were imo BS.

The refs handle this guy in a completely out of line kind of way. He'll bounce back on the boards in the next game...against Dallas. Big Game coming up for sure.
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1/9/2006  6:44 AM
I thought he looked slimmer than he did at the start of the season
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1/9/2006  7:26 AM
That was his first bad boarding game in a while. Tha'ts why his 5 stand out so much - that used to be standard for him!

I think the boarding will come right back up. What's really important im my view has been his free throw shooting! Firstly, because he's been so clutch with it. We definitely don't win the Phoenix game without it and maybe not the Seattle game either.

Secondly, since he doesn't pass out of the double-team much, that means he's bulling to the hoop a lot, and fortunately gets fouled a lot. FT's are a crucial part of the guy's value to the offense then.
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1/9/2006  8:32 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

I thought he looked slimmer than he did at the start of the season
same..
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1/9/2006  8:48 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

5 rebounds is totally unacceptable.

Granted these guys shoot alot of bombs which give off long rebounds, but I saw times when he had position and Petro got the rebound over his back. For most of the game he had 3 boards. we wont win most games giving up that many boards, especially not to a team that shoots as well as them.

Having said that, Eddy has been phenomenal, and what excites me the most is he isn't even close to where he should be yet. His 20 points were a slow night for him considering what he could be doing. I am so happy we have this guy. Steph feeding him in the beginning of the game was really wonderful to watch.

And he is slimming down, even my wife noticed: "Eddy Curry is losing weight right?"
"yes baby, its called conditioning, he's getting his body into game shape. When he does, the knicks will be unstoppable."

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 01-09-2006 04:43 AM]


My wife noticed: "why that big head man wearing black tights on his legs?"

"yes baby, it makes him look slimmer! And helps his circulation to aid his leg problems."

"oh, he looks like he lost weight!"

"You can tell?"

"Yes, Sweetney's ass don't look so huge!"

"Go back to your book honey"
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1/9/2006  9:53 AM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by Killa4luv:

5 rebounds is totally unacceptable.

Granted these guys shoot alot of bombs which give off long rebounds, but I saw times when he had position and Petro got the rebound over his back. For most of the game he had 3 boards. we wont win most games giving up that many boards, especially not to a team that shoots as well as them.

Having said that, Eddy has been phenomenal, and what excites me the most is he isn't even close to where he should be yet. His 20 points were a slow night for him considering what he could be doing. I am so happy we have this guy. Steph feeding him in the beginning of the game was really wonderful to watch.

And he is slimming down, even my wife noticed: "Eddy Curry is losing weight right?"
"yes baby, its called conditioning, he's getting his body into game shape. When he does, the knicks will be unstoppable."

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 01-09-2006 04:43 AM]


My wife noticed: "why that big head man wearing black tights on his legs?"

"yes baby, it makes him look slimmer! And helps his circulation to aid his leg problems."

"oh, he looks like he lost weight!"

"You can tell?"

"Yes, Sweetney's ass don't look so huge!"

"Go back to your book honey"


Nalod, your wifey is just as "unique' as you are.
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1/9/2006  9:56 AM
more pressing area of concern in the game:

0 ASSISTS 5 TURNOVERS

over the last 5:

1 ASSIST 13 TURNOVERS

for the season:

5 ASSISTS 59 TURNOVERS

[Edited by - McK1 on 01-09-2006 09:56 AM]
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Marv
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1/9/2006  9:58 AM
Posted by McK1:

more pressing area of concern in the game:

0 ASSISTS 5 TURNOVERS

over the last 5:

1 ASSIST 13 TURNOVERS

for the season:

5 ASSISTS 59 TURNOVERS

[Edited by - McK1 on 01-09-2006 09:56 AM]


I think we're a long way from getting assists fom Eddy Curry. If we get 10 boards and high FT %, I'm not worrying about assists.
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1/9/2006  10:00 AM
That will come as he matures over the years but I don't expect much passing this year.
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1/9/2006  10:05 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

That will come as he matures over the years but I don't expect much passing this year.
I think Eddy Curry is good for 3 assists a game but I agree with you and Marv. Not much passing this year and I dont want to push that too much either.
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1/9/2006  10:10 AM
Eddie does not have Ewing like presence in the post where he can pause to see where he wants to go. He has to get the ball and move cuz he is not good getting the ball anywhere but very low, and he gets 3 seconds called and swarmed where he gets the ball.

Look at the phx game and you'll notice he is most effective recieving the ball in motion and continues to the basket. Patrick made his choices becasue he had a range of moves. Eddie is very different player. Right now Larry has him working on a few things and getting those right first. We'll see if he adds more to his tool box.

Ewing if he passed could have prevented some wear and tear on his body and gotten more involved.
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1/9/2006  10:26 AM
First off, there aren't many rebounds to be had when the opposition shoots 60% from the field in the first half and 50% for the game. Second, he score ten quick points in the first 6 minutes then brown puts him on the bench and he doesn't come back until a little under five minutes in the second quarter. What the heck was Brown thinking? For some reason, Brown doesn't ride the hot hand. I've seen planty of imes when a guy makes 2-3 baskets in a rown and he takes them out. I remember a game when Q had scored 7 quick points then got yanked. Don't understand that logic.

The worse part is, Curry was taken out for James. Why? Thought Brown was shortening the rotation? Most of his turnovers come from offensive fouls which has gotten better since he's come back from injury. He'll get better at pssing out of the double team soon enough. Before, he would just put his head down and bull his way through it. Now he's sarting to recognize it more. Now he has to learn how to spot the open man instead of holding the ball so long.
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1/9/2006  10:28 AM
What I see in Eddie is a kid who still doesn't know how to play the game. I don't know how the coaches in Chicago coached the team but I don't think they placed as much emphasis on individual responsibility as LB does.

LB's whole MO is to make every player on the team play good fundamental basketball on the theory that solid individuals lead to a solid team. I believe that's why we're seeing improvement in Eddie. I can see that he's slowly learning what to do, how to rebound better, how to make a move to the hoop. You can only teach so much at a time. But I'm happy that we have Brown and Aguirre coaching him day in and day out. He'll never be a post-passer but in two or three years, he could get 20 and 8 with his eyes closed.
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1/9/2006  10:53 AM
Posted by bigbeast:

First off, there aren't many rebounds to be had when the opposition shoots 60% from the field in the first half and 50% for the game. Second, he score ten quick points in the first 6 minutes then brown puts him on the bench and he doesn't come back until a little under five minutes in the second quarter. What the heck was Brown thinking? For some reason, Brown doesn't ride the hot hand. I've seen planty of imes when a guy makes 2-3 baskets in a rown and he takes them out. I remember a game when Q had scored 7 quick points then got yanked. Don't understand that logic.

The worse part is, Curry was taken out for James. Why? Thought Brown was shortening the rotation? Most of his turnovers come from offensive fouls which has gotten better since he's come back from injury. He'll get better at pssing out of the double team soon enough. Before, he would just put his head down and bull his way through it. Now he's sarting to recognize it more. Now he has to learn how to spot the open man instead of holding the ball so long.


I'll give you an answer to that one. Eddie Curry is know for picking up quick fouls and that has killed us because we haven't been able to go to him late in games. Now if you notice LB rides Eddie until he picks up his first foul and then sits him until midway through the second. Then he plays him until he picks up his second foul. This way he saves Eddie for the second half and can have him go down the stretch with a few fouls to give. Eddie determines his playing time, not LB.
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1/9/2006  10:58 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by bigbeast:

First off, there aren't many rebounds to be had when the opposition shoots 60% from the field in the first half and 50% for the game. Second, he score ten quick points in the first 6 minutes then brown puts him on the bench and he doesn't come back until a little under five minutes in the second quarter. What the heck was Brown thinking? For some reason, Brown doesn't ride the hot hand. I've seen planty of imes when a guy makes 2-3 baskets in a rown and he takes them out. I remember a game when Q had scored 7 quick points then got yanked. Don't understand that logic.

The worse part is, Curry was taken out for James. Why? Thought Brown was shortening the rotation? Most of his turnovers come from offensive fouls which has gotten better since he's come back from injury. He'll get better at pssing out of the double team soon enough. Before, he would just put his head down and bull his way through it. Now he's sarting to recognize it more. Now he has to learn how to spot the open man instead of holding the ball so long.


I'll give you an answer to that one. Eddie Curry is know for picking up quick fouls and that has killed us because we haven't been able to go to him late in games. Now if you notice LB rides Eddie until he picks up his first foul and then sits him until midway through the second. Then he plays him until he picks up his second foul. This way he saves Eddie for the second half and can have him go down the stretch with a few fouls to give. Eddie determines his playing time, not LB.

I was just going to write the same thing. Eddie get play depending on fouls, same with Craw and his jacking shots, or Nate and his craziness.
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1/9/2006  11:06 AM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by bigbeast:

First off, there aren't many rebounds to be had when the opposition shoots 60% from the field in the first half and 50% for the game. Second, he score ten quick points in the first 6 minutes then brown puts him on the bench and he doesn't come back until a little under five minutes in the second quarter. What the heck was Brown thinking? For some reason, Brown doesn't ride the hot hand. I've seen planty of imes when a guy makes 2-3 baskets in a rown and he takes them out. I remember a game when Q had scored 7 quick points then got yanked. Don't understand that logic.

The worse part is, Curry was taken out for James. Why? Thought Brown was shortening the rotation? Most of his turnovers come from offensive fouls which has gotten better since he's come back from injury. He'll get better at pssing out of the double team soon enough. Before, he would just put his head down and bull his way through it. Now he's sarting to recognize it more. Now he has to learn how to spot the open man instead of holding the ball so long.


I'll give you an answer to that one. Eddie Curry is know for picking up quick fouls and that has killed us because we haven't been able to go to him late in games. Now if you notice LB rides Eddie until he picks up his first foul and then sits him until midway through the second. Then he plays him until he picks up his second foul. This way he saves Eddie for the second half and can have him go down the stretch with a few fouls to give. Eddie determines his playing time, not LB.


As curry has rounded into better shape, he's fouls have actually gone down. Earlier in the season, he was averaging nearly 4 fouls per. Since comming back from his injury, he's down to 3 per game. He picks up one foul and you take him out? That makes no sense to me. I can understand two fouls in the first half but not one foul. Especially for a guy that was 5-5 from the field. Curry could have 16 in the first quarter.

Jim Calhoun has a rule where he takes out any player that gets 2 fouls in the first half which makes sense being that college uses the 5 foul disqualification rule. NBA has the 6-foul rule. Getting one-foul in the first quarter and sitting Curry is somehting I disagree with.
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1/9/2006  11:41 AM
My guess might be that in the past coaches have tried to get Eddy to work on too many things at once. He's needed to work on passing out of double teams, rebounding, help defense, shot-blocking, going left on offense. Right now it looks like they have him working on rebounding and intensity on defense. That's enough for the time being. If/when he masters that, then he can work on passing.
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1/9/2006  11:42 AM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

The main reason his rebounds were down so much was because he was constantly in foul trouble so on the pine he went. I think he had 3 offensive rebounds of which all were imo BS.

The refs handle this guy in a completely out of line kind of way. He'll bounce back on the boards in the next game...against Dallas. Big Game coming up for sure.


I agree, the way the refs are calling fouls on curry are way out of line, when he turns around, he is always whistled for a foul, it is horrible..
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1/9/2006  1:07 PM
He's never averaged more than 5.9 rpg. So no one should be suprised.
For as good as Eddy Curry has been....

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