Why?

His fundamentals are bigger. His Grandaddy was a Tuskegee Airman. He was born in White Plains. He says all the right things. His main boy is David Lee. The more you hear Channing the sweeter it sounds. He can throw it down in traffic.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... He's a leader.

"You know what's funny, everybody's so hard on Steph," Frye said. "But Steph is learning just like we are. Even though he's a vet, he has to learn. He doesn't know everything about basketball. His attitude is great. He's been a leader, but now he's definitely showing it more on the court. He's being more vocal, and he's getting used to us and how we play and getting the ball to us at the right time."

Posted by misterearl:

Why?

His fundamentals are bigger. His Grandaddy was a Tuskegee Airman. He was born in White Plains. He says all the right things. His main boy is David Lee. The more you hear Channing the sweeter it sounds. He can throw it down in traffic.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... He's a leader.

"You know what's funny, everybody's so hard on Steph," Frye said. "But Steph is learning just like we are. Even though he's a vet, he has to learn. He doesn't know everything about basketball. His attitude is great. He's been a leader, but now he's definitely showing it more on the court. He's being more vocal, and he's getting used to us and how we play and getting the ball to us at the right time."

I dunno about being better then Duncan but there are some similarities. I like Frye and I think he is going to be great but Duncan is already a legend. Lets give him some time to develop he is still a young kid...cant wait to see his body mature and put some bulk on. I think he is def going to be nasty and I loved how he was throwing it down last night.

Where did you get that quote about Marbs? Its good someone is out there supporting him...the team should do more of that - espc since they cant win without him at this point.

channing has played great, tim duncan won a championship his first year and has three rings, could have had 5. You could move Tim Duncan to ANY team in the nBA right now--the knicks, the Hawks the Raotors and they become a championship contender and that goes bakc to his rookie year. Hes able to control the game on both ends in the paint, his stats while superb, dont even quantify his true presence on a game--very much like a modern day bill russell.
channing has troubles defending 1-1 and picking up fouls. Duncan is a cinder block in the paint. I dont think its fair to compare the two, Id like to think that Frye can be like a kevin mchale type player with more athletiscm. That certainly isnt bad

yea... no offense, I dont think you have seen Duncan play very much. He's been one of the premier shot blockers, defenders and rebounders since the day he walked on the pro court.

Actually the guy Channing makes me miss less is Allan Houston. I used to love watching H2O drill those jumpers from every where, and Channing has that same silky smooth touch.

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Posted by BRIGGS:

channing has played great, tim duncan won a championship his first year and has three rings, could have had 5. You could move Tim Duncan to ANY team in the nBA right now--the knicks, the Hawks the Raotors and they become a championship contender and that goes bakc to his rookie year. Hes able to control the game on both ends in the paint, his stats while superb, dont even quantify his true presence on a game--very much like a modern day bill russell.
channing has troubles defending 1-1 and picking up fouls. Duncan is a cinder block in the paint. I dont think its fair to compare the two, Id like to think that Frye can be like a kevin mchale type player with more athletiscm. That certainly isnt bad

no it isn't at all, but I don't see the mchale comparisons, but kevin was a hell of a player tho. But seriously I know this "better than Duncan" post can't be serious, I love frye, but lets not go there, we can hope that one day he has the same effect on the knicks that Duncan has on the spurs....

Mchale was a 6-11 finesse post player with pin point accuracy. Channing is a 6-11 player who also has pin point accuracy, yet more athletiscm. A little different in their styles, but similar type of effect, atleast we hope:>)

Posted by nykshaknbake:

Well, he's defeinetly got the jumper and even the bank shot going. He's a much better free throw shooter. But Duncan did significantly better even in his 1st season I think. ANd was a good defender almost from the get go and a beast in the post. Frye is good, but I think these Duncan comparisons now are off. If we had Duncan at the 4 would we be over 10 games under 500?

[quote]Posted by misterearl:

Why?

His fundamentals are bigger. His Grandaddy was a Tuskegee Airman. He was born in White Plains. He says all the right things. His main boy is David Lee. The more you hear Channing the sweeter it sounds. He can throw it down in traffic.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... He's a leader.

"You know what's funny, everybody's so hard on Steph," Frye said. "But Steph is learning just like we are. Even though he's a vet, he has to learn. He doesn't know everything about basketball. His attitude is great. He's been a leader, but now he's definitely showing it more on the court. He's being more vocal, and he's getting used to us and how we play and getting the ball to us at the right time."

Tim Duncan was an elite superstar from game 1. If we had rookie Tim Duncan, wed be more like 21-9. Notice Tim Duncan's stats have basically been mirror results every year hes been in the league.

I've always thought the Weed Wallace was a better comparison.

I am excited at the prospect of watching Frye over the next few years and expect that in the same time period he will strengthen the upper, lower and core parts of his body. He doesn't seem as wide as either Duncan or Wallace, especially at the hips and shoulders, where a lot of post players will beat you. I would say that out of the 3, Frye probably has the best face the basket shot. That 3 pointer in the Wiz game was in the flow and looked utterly simple for the guy. Amazing indeed, we just hope that he doesn't become in love with the shot and get too far away from the basket.

I loved the Duncan-Russell comparison in terms of impact on the game. I think that's accurate.

I think we gotta remember we're discussing Frye the morning after a superb game. A pro can't shoot much better and be much more effective than he was last night. A rookie can't look more poised and seasoned than he did. But he's had plenty of games where he looked lost, traveled or bricked, shied away on D and the boards, and sucked.

As far as McHale, I watched A LOT of Kevin McHale games, and he was one of the all-time best ever low-post players. He had Hakeem-like effectiveness around the rim. His up-and-under move was virtually unstoppable because he was 6'11" , had freakishly long arms and just had an instinct for playing underneath. Plus he loved contact and physical play.

Now as far as Frye's future goes, I think you keep exploiting his tremendous offensive gifts. Let him shoot that mid-range jumper all day and keep working on his drives and low-post moves. His dunks look emphatic and impressive, and that's a good sign for his developing more physical under the basket play. This kid could turn out to be a real special player. He's already a special rookie.

Ugh, Tim Duncan, Kevin McHale, Sheed. Maybe Frye can be as good as them or maybe he can't, but lets be fair to the kid. Let him turn out to be what Channing CAN be. Nobody was expecting him to be as good as he has, so now Duncan and McHale? What if he turns out to be a real good player but nothing like them, but happens, all the hatred being poured on Marbury gets redirected towards him? How about just enjoy his development and see what happens.

Posted by misterearl:

Why?

His fundamentals are bigger. His Grandaddy was a Tuskegee Airman. He was born in White Plains. He says all the right things. His main boy is David Lee. The more you hear Channing the sweeter it sounds. He can throw it down in traffic.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot... He's a leader.

"You know what's funny, everybody's so hard on Steph," Frye said. "But Steph is learning just like we are. Even though he's a vet, he has to learn. He doesn't know everything about basketball. His attitude is great. He's been a leader, but now he's definitely showing it more on the court. He's being more vocal, and he's getting used to us and how we play and getting the ball to us at the right time."

This is nice sentiment, but way too early to tag Frye with that label or comparison, He has alot of work to do on the defense, to be any where near Duncan, or anyother great PF, Frye will be a great one, but he is a ways from it at this time. I love his game, but he is a youngster with a very bright future ahead of him, as long as he keeps working at his game, which I am sure he will.

Frye to me is more like rasheed, than duncan, especially if he can learn to hit that outside shot consistently. oh and I dont know if I really need to say this but obviously frye is not in the same league as duncan. If we're lucky he may turn out to be as good as rasheed.