Full-sized 2+3 who can play both ways

a big who can block shots, rebound, run and especially defend to replace guys who are shipping out

I still think marbury will be fine. Im not on the bandwagon of kill marbury, we need to work with marbury, and maybe find a solid back up pass first PG


Crawford is a sixth man, hes not a starter because he's just way to inconsistent and there are just no signs of the slowing up+ he scks on the D because he skinny

I think you can have nate and craw as your two bench Gs--as nate matures, maybe he can be the back up PG, but well need to find a pass first PG as well who also plays mean D.


So looking forward in my puzzle I see this


C- Curry
PF Frye
SF 0
G 0
PG Marbury
C 0
CF-Lee--lee is not a 3 but he can play a psuedo 3-4-5 off the bench
6th man Crawford
back up combo Nate

Taylor is a good back up at PF, but hes signed for only 1 year


everything else can go
richardson
malik
davis
jerome james
penny


now im indifferent on
butler
woods
ariza

its good to keep young guys in the pipleine, we have to make continual determinations if these guys are worthy of staying. because of our cap, im sure they can all garner another year to evaluate.

but at some point, we need to find 9 guys with a 10th guy for foul touble
a vet who stay who wil likely be malik


and then 2-3 developing players for the future.

we did well in the draft which makes it sad that we dont have that pick because that really seems to be isiahs forte
at 28-29 most of the name guys that have been mentioned here will be long gone, but there are some intruiging pieces that may just fall down to us, a few bigs that can fill that back up c position. i think the pGs will be gone-there is a couple of full-sized 2 guards
bt it would be nice to put Morrison in that 3 spot.

I still say it's too early to give up on Q.

It sure would be nice to get a starting quality SF.

it's too bad that Isiah didn't sit on KThomas until late summer and instead of Q went after JJ... say the Lee pick, Ariza, KT, future first and sign and trade.

Good post Briggs. I'm just curious, whats your take on Marbury. Would you like to keep him as PG or would you like to give him a shot at PG with a pass-first PG. I know you stated you would like a solid backup pass-first PG but what do you think about Steph at the 2?

Well, your assesment of Lee is wrong, he can play the 3, since IT and LB are working on him playing the 3, I say they know better than any of us. Since according to some we have to trust those two, then Lee is a gonna be a good 3, when they are done with him.

Crawford has improved on his Defense, and he playing smarter, since Q is not doing anything good Crawford is a starter.

Posted by attaboy2005:

Well, your assesment of Lee is wrong, he can play the 3, since IT and LB are working on him playing the 3, I say they know better than any of us. Since according to some we have to trust those two, then Lee is a gonna be a good 3, when they are done with him.

i think lee can play the 3 also. we are now all seeing why lee wasnt getting minutes in the beginning of the year, he cant shoot. but once he can hit his shot, he will be an A.Mason type SF, around a double double.



[Edited by - jaydh on 12-31-2005 09:56 AM]

Posted by Marv:

I believe in the future of Frye, Curry, Lee, Nate, Crawford and Ariza with Larry coaching them. I think it's the right time to look into possibilities for moving Marbs. I'd like to hang onto Butler. As Briggs says, everyone else can go.

I think you work with Marbury. 90% of nBA players wish they could put up 24 -12. Hes working to change things a bit. He makes to much money there are to many problems that surround him to make a deal for him, IF there was even one there. Hes got a lot of talent and hes in a bit of transition. Im holding Mabrury if it was me. Craw to me is nOT a starting player in this league, BUT he is a guy who can come off the bench as a high caliber sixth man. His inconsistencies are to prevelant and his build is to slight to acknowledge him as a starting 2G for long term. But he can be a guy who can come in and realy spark the team AND if he is off, he can be pulled.

i really have no clue what management thinks about steph. i'm not sure if they want to keep him for the rest of the year at the least or move him asap. whatever the case, the decision will come from dolan/mills.

Posted by misterearl:

Briggs - what you said.

We Knicks Fans who know remember the cheers for the pass leading to the assist. If the Marbury that made a cameo appearance ever shows in New York,, fans should be ready to push him to greater heights.

The one hustle play alone on defense would endear him to the crowd. Hopefully, he will learn to enjoy the game again.

Why not give Marbury a loud cheer for every assist in The Garden?

He may survive the so-called storm and emerge a better basketball player.

Anyone will get cheers for hustle plays. Ive seen many Uconn practices over the last 15 years, and one thing that sticks out is that NO player can EVER stop on a play no matter what--its mandated by JC-- If you give 110% for every minute you are out there, good things will happen, especially if there is talent behind it.
If the Knicks as a whole play 110%, even if they lose, there will be no boos. Its not up to the fans, ive been to the Garden a thousand times. Fans will cheer at almost any oportunity you give them. If you play like sht, they will let you know, and there s no in between in NY.

Posted by BRIGGS:
Full-sized 2+3 who can play both ways
a big who can block shots, rebound, run and especially defend to replace guys who are shipping out

I posted this some time back... what do you think of:
Adonal Foyle + Pietrus for Mo T and Jackie Butler

It gets them out from under Foyle's contract. It costs them Pietrus who is a HELL of a player, but is stuck behind Dunleavy and Richardson both of whome are signed to long big deals. Foyal has already been replaced by my first choice in the draft in Ike and he's been better than solid.

I gotta agree with dj - Pietrus is promising but he's not guarenteed enough to mak it worth adding Tin Foyle to our cap mess.