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OAK
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12/23/2005  9:48 AM
According to NY Post:
http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/59333.htm

Thomas commemorated the day by ripping the mental makeup of the club he built, calling his players "weak-minded" and saying they lacked "mental stamina."

Thomas went further, asserting that some Knicks do not have the "substance" to face the pressure of playing professional sports in New York.

"I like that Larry [Brown] and I get the brunt of the criticism," Thomas said. "I like we wear the black hat right now. The players need shelter."

To Isiah,

Nice talk there. But you know what? You created this mess. It was you who brought all these players to NY. Every single one of them. You brought in over $300mm of future salary, and we are the second worst team in the entire NBA. We got no flexibility, we gave away picks, and we are stuck with mediocre boobs who, according to you, are WEAK MINDED.

I think Knicks fans are sick and tired of YOUR TALK. Your talk is like Craw & Marb's flashy AND1 moves. They look cool, but they don't produce results. They don't mean a thing at the end. I think it's time that you truly own up to your mistakes and admit that you have no real knowledge of how to assemble & manage a team. You s*ck...


Dear Santa,

Please bring in a new GM with superior knowledge & experience of managing a BB team. I know you have so many things on your TO DO list, but this will make millions of NYK fans around the world happy.
AUTOADVERT
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12/23/2005  9:55 AM
I was gonna ask for an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action BB Gun for Christmas but I think I'm going to have to change that and ask for what you're asking.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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12/23/2005  10:06 AM
Isles... you will just shoot your eye out
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12/23/2005  11:28 AM
I said over and over last years team was soft as hell!

These guys are similar but they at least have more upside!

KT and Allan were labeled as many things, but they were not Wussies!

Laydens 2002 team. Won 37 games almost made playoffs:
Name G Min Pts PPG FGM FGA FGP FTM FTA FTP 3PM 3PA 3PP REB RPG AST APG STL BLK TO
Allan Houston 82 3108 1845 22.5 652 1465 .445 363 395 .919 178 450 .396 231 2.8 220 2.7 54 7 178
Latrell Sprewell 74 2859 1215 16.4 454 1127 .403 173 218 .794 134 360 .372 285 3.9 332 4.5 102 22 172
Kurt Thomas 81 2577 1134 14.0 497 1028 .483 138 184 .750 2 3 .667 637 7.9 162 2.0 81 97 138
Howard Eisley 82 2243 744 9.1 262 628 .417 89 105 .848 131 337 .389 186 2.3 444 5.4 71 9 149
Shandon Anderson 82 1731 687 8.4 248 537 .462 139 190 .732 52 140 .371 254 3.1 87 1.1 73 20 114
Othella Harrington 74 1850 573 7.7 225 443 .508 123 150 .820 0 0 .000 476 6.4 62 0.8 12 23 90
Charlie Ward 66 1465 472 7.2 165 414 .399 41 53 .774 101 267 .378 177 2.7 306 4.6 78 11 95
Clarence Weatherspoon 79 2024 521 6.6 186 414 .449 149 194 .768 0 0 .000 599 7.6 68 0.9 69 36 63
Lee Nailon 38 405 210 5.5 84 190 .442 42 51 .824 0 1 .000 70 1.8 26 0.7 6 3 32
Michael Doleac 75 1041 328 4.4 146 343 .426 36 46 .783 0 0 .000 219 2.9 42 0.6 16 16 49
Lavor Postell 12 98 43 3.6 14 38 .368 13 15 .867 2 7 .286 4 0.3 3 0.3 2 0 7
Travis Knight 32 287 60 1.9 25 65 .385 10 13 .769 0 1 .000 62 1.9 14 0.4 8 9 10
Frank Williams
and of course Dice.

Not the most talented team, but they had good chemistry and were not Wussies! Who knows what Layden was able or unable to do, or would have done, but that team, that year had heart! The next season was a different story, but we at least were not starphuching anymore and were going to use our picks and let contracts fall.

This team now is very very young! THe vets are done, our guys will grow up. They must go thru this painful process!
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12/23/2005  11:45 AM
For xmas I want like 2 things to go well 4 me.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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12/23/2005  11:50 AM
My X-MAS Knick wish would be for Isiah to add a player at the 1, 2, or 3 with the upside and promise that Frye and Curry have at the 4 and 5.
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12/23/2005  11:53 AM
^ Stop wasting your xmas wishes on the Knicks!
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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12/23/2005  11:54 AM
But can we keep him as head of scouting???
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12/23/2005  11:56 AM

My X-MAS Knick wish would be for Isiah to add a player at the 1, 2, or 3 with the upside and promise that Frye and Curry have at the 4 and 5.

Do you ever stop spinning and talking in vague terms that leave yourself with lots of room for error?

[Edited by - islesfan on 12-23-2005 11:57 AM]
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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12/23/2005  12:02 PM
Posted by islesfan:


My X-MAS Knick wish would be for Isiah to add a player at the 1, 2, or 3 with the upside and promise that Frye and Curry have at the 4 and 5.

Do you ever stop spinning and talking in vague terms that leave yourself with lots of room for error?

[Edited by - islesfan on 12-23-2005 11:57 AM]

What the hell is wrong with what he said, moreso why the hell do you care. Isles, do yourself a favor and ignore Bonn, it seems like you are obscenely obsessed with him and only come onto this board to find his posts and quote them. Give it up.
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12/23/2005  12:15 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:


My X-MAS Knick wish would be for Isiah to add a player at the 1, 2, or 3 with the upside and promise that Frye and Curry have at the 4 and 5.

Do you ever stop spinning and talking in vague terms that leave yourself with lots of room for error?

[Edited by - islesfan on 12-23-2005 11:57 AM]

What the hell is wrong with what he said, moreso why the hell do you care. Isles, do yourself a favor and ignore Bonn, it seems like you are obscenely obsessed with him and only come onto this board to find his posts and quote them. Give it up.

It's an honest question.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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12/23/2005  12:22 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:


My X-MAS Knick wish would be for Isiah to add a player at the 1, 2, or 3 with the upside and promise that Frye and Curry have at the 4 and 5.

Do you ever stop spinning and talking in vague terms that leave yourself with lots of room for error?

[Edited by - islesfan on 12-23-2005 11:57 AM]

What the hell is wrong with what he said, moreso why the hell do you care. Isles, do yourself a favor and ignore Bonn, it seems like you are obscenely obsessed with him and only come onto this board to find his posts and quote them. Give it up.

Well, now Bonn knows how Briggs feels. It's an endless cycle. LOL
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12/23/2005  12:25 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

My X-MAS Knick wish would be for Isiah to add a player at the 1, 2, or 3 with the upside and promise that Frye and Curry have at the 4 and 5.
I hope he does a whole lot better than that
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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12/23/2005  12:43 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:


My X-MAS Knick wish would be for Isiah to add a player at the 1, 2, or 3 with the upside and promise that Frye and Curry have at the 4 and 5.

Do you ever stop spinning and talking in vague terms that leave yourself with lots of room for error?

[Edited by - islesfan on 12-23-2005 11:57 AM]

What the hell is wrong with what he said, moreso why the hell do you care. Isles, do yourself a favor and ignore Bonn, it seems like you are obscenely obsessed with him and only come onto this board to find his posts and quote them. Give it up.

Well, now Bonn knows how Briggs feels. It's an endless cycle. LOL

Haha, thats true too.
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12/23/2005  12:54 PM
Posted by Nalod:

I said over and over last years team was soft as hell!

These guys are similar but they at least have more upside!

KT and Allan were labeled as many things, but they were not Wussies!

Laydens 2002 team. Won 37 games almost made playoffs:
Name G Min Pts PPG FGM FGA FGP FTM FTA FTP 3PM 3PA 3PP REB RPG AST APG STL BLK TO
Allan Houston 82 3108 1845 22.5 652 1465 .445 363 395 .919 178 450 .396 231 2.8 220 2.7 54 7 178
Latrell Sprewell 74 2859 1215 16.4 454 1127 .403 173 218 .794 134 360 .372 285 3.9 332 4.5 102 22 172
Kurt Thomas 81 2577 1134 14.0 497 1028 .483 138 184 .750 2 3 .667 637 7.9 162 2.0 81 97 138
Howard Eisley 82 2243 744 9.1 262 628 .417 89 105 .848 131 337 .389 186 2.3 444 5.4 71 9 149
Shandon Anderson 82 1731 687 8.4 248 537 .462 139 190 .732 52 140 .371 254 3.1 87 1.1 73 20 114
Othella Harrington 74 1850 573 7.7 225 443 .508 123 150 .820 0 0 .000 476 6.4 62 0.8 12 23 90
Charlie Ward 66 1465 472 7.2 165 414 .399 41 53 .774 101 267 .378 177 2.7 306 4.6 78 11 95
Clarence Weatherspoon 79 2024 521 6.6 186 414 .449 149 194 .768 0 0 .000 599 7.6 68 0.9 69 36 63
Lee Nailon 38 405 210 5.5 84 190 .442 42 51 .824 0 1 .000 70 1.8 26 0.7 6 3 32
Michael Doleac 75 1041 328 4.4 146 343 .426 36 46 .783 0 0 .000 219 2.9 42 0.6 16 16 49
Lavor Postell 12 98 43 3.6 14 38 .368 13 15 .867 2 7 .286 4 0.3 3 0.3 2 0 7
Travis Knight 32 287 60 1.9 25 65 .385 10 13 .769 0 1 .000 62 1.9 14 0.4 8 9 10
Frank Williams
and of course Dice.

Not the most talented team, but they had good chemistry and were not Wussies! Who knows what Layden was able or unable to do, or would have done, but that team, that year had heart! The next season was a different story, but we at least were not starphuching anymore and were going to use our picks and let contracts fall.

This team now is very very young! THe vets are done, our guys will grow up. They must go thru this painful process!

This wasn't Laydens team. Grunfeld and Checkets put that team together. Spree, Houston etc...all Grunfeld and Checkets

"Man, who knows with this team." Aguirre.
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12/23/2005  4:08 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Bonn1997:

My X-MAS Knick wish would be for Isiah to add a player at the 1, 2, or 3 with the upside and promise that Frye and Curry have at the 4 and 5.
I hope he does a whole lot better than that
That's the wish for *this* X-Mas (or this season). One step at a time. Eventually he'll have to add more than one player obviously.

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12/23/2005  4:10 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by islesfan:


My X-MAS Knick wish would be for Isiah to add a player at the 1, 2, or 3 with the upside and promise that Frye and Curry have at the 4 and 5.

Do you ever stop spinning and talking in vague terms that leave yourself with lots of room for error?

[Edited by - islesfan on 12-23-2005 11:57 AM]

What the hell is wrong with what he said, moreso why the hell do you care. Isles, do yourself a favor and ignore Bonn, it seems like you are obscenely obsessed with him and only come onto this board to find his posts and quote them. Give it up.

Well, now Bonn knows how Briggs feels. It's an endless cycle. LOL
Except about half this board hates what Briggs writes. I don't even quote or ridicule him as much as many other posters now. I still do occasionally but I usually just sit back and watch others criticize him. Isles can come here, quote, and name-call me as often as he likes. That's his issue.
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12/23/2005  4:43 PM
If a guy who nobody really knows here bothers you guys, maybe you need to find another hobby! This board is for fun. It's not to be taken as a life nescessity issue!
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12/23/2005  5:06 PM
"bothers us" as in the views are annoying for the ten seconds we (or at least I) read them. Not "bothers" in the sense that it carries over into the rest of my life or something. I enjoy teaching, grad school, and spending time with my gf too much to be seriously affected by anything on a message board.
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12/23/2005  5:18 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

"bothers us" as in the views are annoying for the ten seconds we (or at least I) read them. Not "bothers" in the sense that it carries over into the rest of my life or something. I enjoy teaching, grad school, and spending time with my gf too much to be seriously affected by anything on a message board.

What subject/class/whatever you want to call it do you teach, Bonn?

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 12-23-2005 5:18 PM]
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