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12/21/2005  9:29 PM
I thought I'd be happy with rebuilding...i battled with simrud...i battled with bobs...i've battled with fishy and even wished death on islesfan...but I have to come clean...I'm devastated.

larry, marbs and isiah must got.
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12/21/2005  9:31 PM
got what?
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12/21/2005  9:32 PM
Lets trade Marbury and get some players in here that Larry Brown wants instead of using players he cant get through too since their games as the exact opposite of what Larry Brown preaches.
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12/21/2005  9:34 PM
If the knicks are rebuilding then I will tolerate the ignominious losses, if I think there is hope in sight, with our pick going to chicago there isnt a heck of alot of hope, but we should just site and whatch guys develop, IF we are rebuilding that is.
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12/21/2005  9:35 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Lets trade Marbury and get some players in here that Larry Brown wants instead of using players he cant get through too since their games as the exact opposite of what Larry Brown preaches.

I wonder if the Knicks are really rebuilding should we stick with larry? Would he seek to trade all of our youth for vets, that can learn his system more quickly?
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12/21/2005  9:36 PM
THIS CAN'T BE CALLED REBUILDING IF YOUR PAYROLL ROSTER IS 125MM... REBUILDING INVOLVES A TEAM WITH A PAYROLL UNDER 70MM..

ISAIH SAYS "REBUILDING" AS AN EXCUSE.. HE NEEDS TO GO..
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12/21/2005  9:37 PM
Posted by SlimPack:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Lets trade Marbury and get some players in here that Larry Brown wants instead of using players he cant get through too since their games as the exact opposite of what Larry Brown preaches.

I wonder if the Knicks are really rebuilding should we stick with larry? Would he seek to trade all of our youth for vets, that can learn his system more quickly?

I think Frye has picked up his system quickly, the same goes for Curry. Ariza isn't a fundamental player, neither is Crawford, neither is Marbury, neither is the whole roster. I'd be willing to sacrifice everyone on this team aside from Frye and Curry to get players in here that Larry Brown can coach, instead of yell at.
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12/21/2005  9:38 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

THIS CAN'T BE CALLED REBUILDING IF YOUR PAYROLL ROSTER IS 125MM... REBUILDING INVOLVES A TEAM WITH A PAYROLL UNDER 70MM..

ISAIH SAYS "REBUILDING" AS AN EXCUSE.. HE NEEDS TO GO..

What? Since when does it matter what your payroll is, I've never seen that guideline in rebuilding situations.
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12/21/2005  9:46 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

THIS CAN'T BE CALLED REBUILDING IF YOUR PAYROLL ROSTER IS 125MM... REBUILDING INVOLVES A TEAM WITH A PAYROLL UNDER 70MM..

ISAIH SAYS "REBUILDING" AS AN EXCUSE.. HE NEEDS TO GO..

What? Since when does it matter what your payroll is, I've never seen that guideline in rebuilding situations.

what is the guideline for rebuilding situations?

[Edited by - SlimPack on 12-21-2005 9:47 PM]
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12/21/2005  9:54 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

THIS CAN'T BE CALLED REBUILDING IF YOUR PAYROLL ROSTER IS 125MM... REBUILDING INVOLVES A TEAM WITH A PAYROLL UNDER 70MM..

ISAIH SAYS "REBUILDING" AS AN EXCUSE.. HE NEEDS TO GO..


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12/21/2005  9:56 PM
Posted by SlimPack:


what is the guideline for rebuilding situations?

[Edited by - SlimPack on 12-21-2005 9:47 PM]

Good question but I don't think a set payroll is part of it.

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12/21/2005  9:59 PM
cutting payroll is
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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12/21/2005  10:00 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by SlimPack:


what is the guideline for rebuilding situations?

[Edited by - SlimPack on 12-21-2005 9:47 PM]

Good question but I don't think a set payroll is part of it.

I found this article to be pretty interesting
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCJ/is_4_30/ai_96619874
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12/21/2005  10:02 PM
Posted by McK1:

cutting payroll is

It's certainly one way to go but so is having 9 players under the age of 25 on your roster, no?
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12/21/2005  10:05 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by McK1:

cutting payroll is

It's certainly one way to go but so is having 9 players under the age of 25 on your roster, no?

yeah but as you stated earlier in this thread only 1 of them is fundamentally sound
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12/21/2005  10:07 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by McK1:

cutting payroll is

It's certainly one way to go but so is having 9 players under the age of 25 on your roster, no?

yeah but as you stated earlier in this thread only 1 of them is fundamentally sound

Thats certainly true. I just dont know what your arguing. Are you arguing the fact that cutting payroll has to be part of rebuilding or arguing that the Knicks rebuilt stupidly with the Under-25 players that they have... or maybe its both?
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12/21/2005  10:08 PM
not arguing anything. most rebuilding teams choose cutting payroll as apart of it.
the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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12/21/2005  10:11 PM
I'm actually just curious to see the % of teams that go through rebuilding, actually end up winning championships within 5 years of their rebuilding project.
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12/21/2005  10:13 PM
the knicks need to pull off trades to acquire players that will fit browns system, even if it means trading talented young players that dont.
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12/21/2005  10:13 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I'm actually just curious to see the % of teams that go through rebuilding, actually end up winning championships within 5 years of their rebuilding project.

the post MJ bulls have been rebuilding for like six years

[Edited by - SlimPack on 12-21-2005 10:14 PM]
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