Posted by edsonline:

If getting lit up 3 games in a row isn't a sign that Zeke should call back Walsh and tell him everyone and everything (except Marbury, Frye, and Curry) is available for Artest I don't what is. This is f---ing embarassing.

Posted by nysoldier:

edson you are right bro...we can give them lee and robinson and the SA pick...artest could be a @#$%ing serial killer right now i would still take him.

Posted by OAK:

Knicks don't need Artest now. Our problem cannot be solved by adding a player who is not a leader. If anything, Artest may cause even more problems considering how unstable this team already is. He needs stability, love, and success.

This team needs to shed itself of heavy baggage like Marbury, Rose, etc. AD & Penny will be gone one way or another. I hope Isiah will move them for picks or good solid player(s). If not just let their contracts expire.

We need a real star who can lead this young group, or picks that can turn into players like Chris Paul.

Posted by OAK:

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by OAK:

Knicks don't need Artest now. Our problem cannot be solved by adding a player who is not a leader. If anything, Artest may cause even more problems considering how unstable this team already is. He needs stability, love, and success.

This team needs to shed itself of heavy baggage like Marbury, Rose, etc. AD & Penny will be gone one way or another. I hope Isiah will move them for picks or good solid player(s). If not just let their contracts expire.

We need a real star who can lead this young group, or picks that can turn into players like Chris Paul.

I guess we shouldnt call marbury baggage just yet

[Edited by - SlimPack on 12-16-2005 10:40 PM]

This is a rebuilding team with mostly young guys. I want my vets to teach and be good examples for the youth. I want them to make the youth better.

Does Marbury do that? NOPE. He is always about 'me'. He seems like a likable guy outside the court, but on the court, he is not a good team player. At least, he does not fit with Larry's style of play.

So, I say he's a baggage. He's slowing down this team's progress. Imagine if we had Chris Paul, Nash, Kidd, etc. I'm sure the team looks & operates better. They still might have hard time playing for Brown, but I doubt they'd have the same pathetic manner and attitude like Marbury does.

Posted by OAK:

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by OAK:

Knicks don't need Artest now. Our problem cannot be solved by adding a player who is not a leader. If anything, Artest may cause even more problems considering how unstable this team already is. He needs stability, love, and success.

This team needs to shed itself of heavy baggage like Marbury, Rose, etc. AD & Penny will be gone one way or another. I hope Isiah will move them for picks or good solid player(s). If not just let their contracts expire.

We need a real star who can lead this young group, or picks that can turn into players like Chris Paul.

I guess we shouldnt call marbury baggage just yet

[Edited by - SlimPack on 12-16-2005 10:40 PM]

This is a rebuilding team with mostly young guys. I want my vets to teach and be good examples for the youth. I want them to make the youth better.

Does Marbury do that? NOPE. He is always about 'me'. He seems like a likable guy outside the court, but on the court, he is not a good team player. At least, he does not fit with Larry's style of play.

So, I say he's a baggage. He's slowing down this team's progress. Imagine if we had Chris Paul, Nash, Kidd, etc. I'm sure the team looks & operates better. They still might have hard time playing for Brown, but I doubt they'd have the same pathetic manner and attitude like Marbury does.

Posted by Bonn1997:


If Marbury was "always about 'me'" why would he deflate his stats by playing with the flu?

to keep his consecutive games played streak alive

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by OAK:

Posted by SlimPack:

Posted by OAK:

Knicks don't need Artest now. Our problem cannot be solved by adding a player who is not a leader. If anything, Artest may cause even more problems considering how unstable this team already is. He needs stability, love, and success.

This team needs to shed itself of heavy baggage like Marbury, Rose, etc. AD & Penny will be gone one way or another. I hope Isiah will move them for picks or good solid player(s). If not just let their contracts expire.

We need a real star who can lead this young group, or picks that can turn into players like Chris Paul.

I guess we shouldnt call marbury baggage just yet

[Edited by - SlimPack on 12-16-2005 10:40 PM]

This is a rebuilding team with mostly young guys. I want my vets to teach and be good examples for the youth. I want them to make the youth better.

Does Marbury do that? NOPE. He is always about 'me'. He seems like a likable guy outside the court, but on the court, he is not a good team player. At least, he does not fit with Larry's style of play.

So, I say he's a baggage. He's slowing down this team's progress. Imagine if we had Chris Paul, Nash, Kidd, etc. I'm sure the team looks & operates better. They still might have hard time playing for Brown, but I doubt they'd have the same pathetic manner and attitude like Marbury does.

If Marbury was "always about 'me'" why would he deflate his stats by playing with the flu? Why would he take only 13 shots a game? It sounds like you're just blindly buying whatever the media tell you about Steph

If getting lit up 3 games in a row isn't a sign that Zeke should call back Walsh and tell him everyone and everything (except Marbury, Frye, and Curry) is available for Artest I don't what is. This is f---ing embarassing.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Maybe he thinks he can help the team win better if he moves to 2 guard? We could speculate endlessly on his motivation for wanting to move to the 2

Posted by edsonline:

You can write it before and write it again. Artest is a pycho. Pacers will take the best deal they can, if that's kids and cap space they'll take it. Interested in what "all-star caliber players" walsh has been offered, sounds like he's bluffing to get teams to make better offers. If offered an all-star make the trade. Who the f--- would trade an all-star for crazy @$$ Artest?