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BRIGGS
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12/14/2005  10:08 PM
it really isnt a rebuilding effort per se, we have so much payroll and no real possibility of high draft picks for 4 years--were the only team that has no chance at greg oden even before next year were trapped with a low IQ team that lacks fundamental yadayada i dont want to say it again. i wish i could see a glimmer of hope.
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NotFrye
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12/14/2005  10:11 PM
KNICKS IN 2012!!! YEAH BABY!!
OAK
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12/14/2005  10:12 PM
Isiah Thomas for the GM of the Year!

Seriously, the picks we gave up to CHI gonna hurt this team. Isiah better move the vets and REBUILD. Am I the only one feeling like I'm watching the 04-05 season all over again? I like the youth on the team. LB need to play them and design plays for them. He talks about his players being stupid and inconsistent. He should look at himself in the mirror before he opens his POS mouth. What the f**k kind of coach is he, airing dirty laundry with the media? I'm pissed.

[Edited by - OAK on 12-14-2005 10:13 PM]
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Iraq
12/14/2005  10:14 PM
this team needs to be coached awhole lot better than what Larry(sound bite) Brown is doing.
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12/14/2005  10:14 PM
We just suck. As simple as that. We are not a basketball team. Heck, does this team knows anything about basketball? Its really an embarrasing time to be a Knicks fan...
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Rich
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12/14/2005  10:16 PM
The decision to give up the pick and keep Lee could end up costing Isiah his job.
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12/14/2005  10:16 PM
This is not a bad team on paper. Something smells rotten though. LB is gonna get dragged through the mud if something doesnt change quick...this isnt Philly, or Detroit - its NY. I see the young guys learning which is good, but something isnt right and that is something the coach has to fix.
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BRIGGS
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12/14/2005  10:17 PM
its good to have eddie curry, but we got hosed bidding against ourselves. chicago wasnt going to resign him--whats wrong with giving them the sa pick and those 2s and keep our own stuff? they werent getting a better deal than that. its water under the bridge they have to figure something out
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12/14/2005  10:18 PM
I'm happy we got Curry, but Isiah caved on the Crawford deal last year, and caved again on the Curry deal this year. He is Paxson's bitch.
BRIGGS
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12/14/2005  10:19 PM
Posted by Rich:

The decision to give up the pick and keep Lee could end up costing Isiah his job.

on top of that, we have no chance at greg oden if we were 1 next year we d give him to chicago--you just cant open yourself up like that unless kobe bryant is coming here, and for david lee?????
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12/14/2005  10:19 PM
We're terrible. But really, more draft picks isn't really going to help us. We have plenty of young players and we had a load of picks this past year. The thing we're missing is develoment of our players and working together as a team. We have the talent. Bringing in more raw players that don't know the system(whatever that is) really isn't the key to our problems now. All the picks in the world wouldn't help us now, we just don't have a winning atmosphere or culture.
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12/14/2005  10:20 PM
Giving up a pick for Eddie doesn't concern me. That's what you do to get players like him. And please, one pick is not going to cost Isiah his job.

If he really wants to get more picks, he can make a trade for them later. Teams do it all the time.

Acquiring Curry has nothing to do with the fact that Stephon is not leading this team to anything right now.
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12/14/2005  10:20 PM
I think this franchise is cursed or something... We've got BAD KARMA.

I'm getting sick of feeling frustrated and pissed with this team. It's like freaking ground hog day!!!!!

IT'S TIME TO REBUILD!!!
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12/14/2005  10:22 PM
it really isnt a rebuilding effort per se, we have so much payroll and no real possibility of high draft picks for 4 years--were the only team that has no chance at greg oden even before next year were trapped with a low IQ team that lacks fundamental yadayada i dont want to say it again. i wish i could see a glimmer of hope.

It is time to admit this team sucks. Anyone on the team can be traded as far as I am concerned, with the exception of Frye.

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
Rich
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12/14/2005  10:22 PM
Posted by OAK:

I think this franchise is cursed or something... We've got BAD KARMA.

I'm getting sick of feeling frustrated and pissed with this team. It's like freaking ground hog day!!!!!

IT'S TIME TO REBUILD!!!

It's not bad karma, it's that they never have a strategy to get good, only tactics.
OAK
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12/14/2005  10:23 PM
Posted by nykshaknbake:

We're terrible. But really, more draft picks isn't really going to help us. We have plenty of young players and we had a load of picks this past year. The thing we're missing is develoment of our players and working together as a team. We have the talent. Bringing in more raw players that don't know the system(whatever that is) really isn't the key to our problems now. All the picks in the world wouldn't help us now, we just don't have a winning atmosphere or culture.

WTF are you talking about... We have talent? LOL!
Drafting players like Gay/Morrison wouldn't help this team?
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12/14/2005  10:26 PM
*&%$ rebuilding...get Doc Rivers in here and we would be ahead in the atlantic...its not the players guys...ITS THE @#$%ING COACH
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12/14/2005  10:37 PM
PG:Nate
SG:
SF:Ariza/Q-Dog
PF:Frye/Lee
C: Curry/Butler

These kids are not the answer but are decent building blocks.

Get rid of the vets - Marbury/Craw/AD/Penny/Rose/Mo/JJ/Q. Go after picks and players with good BB brains/fundamentals/heart/toughness. No more AND1 players. The only untouchables on the team are Frye & Curry.
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12/15/2005  1:05 PM
Listen, you guys are so impatient that if we did it your way rebuilding would never work. I consider this year probably the marker at the end of 1-1.5 years of rebuilding. And you want to o verhual the roster completly again. Do you think you really have the patience to sit through a 5-6 year job like the Bulls and still have a so-so team? We completly changed the roster around and have mostly young guys now. Alot of times when that happens teams suck. There's no way that any of guys yelling for trading every player we have for late picks, will ever have the patience to develop them before you would want to trade them again. period.
Posted by OAK:
Posted by nykshaknbake:

We're terrible. But really, more draft picks isn't really going to help us. We have plenty of young players and we had a load of picks this past year. The thing we're missing is develoment of our players and working together as a team. We have the talent. Bringing in more raw players that don't know the system(whatever that is) really isn't the key to our problems now. All the picks in the world wouldn't help us now, we just don't have a winning atmosphere or culture.

WTF are you talking about... We have talent? LOL!
Drafting players like Gay/Morrison wouldn't help this team?
McK1
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12/15/2005  2:08 PM
Posted by nysoldier:

*&%$ rebuilding...get Doc Rivers in here and we would be ahead in the atlantic...its not the players guys...ITS THE @#$%ING COACH

the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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