3 guard line ups and size up front. I think thats our strength and I hope we see a lot more of that. Mo T is clearly more deserving than AD for PT.

Ariza is problem at the 3, he's simply not ready, but maybe we can make a move for a 3 down the road or the Q's come in and help us there

I would like to see what a rotation of
bigs: Frye/Curry + Mo T, Butler
wing: Q, Q, Ariza
guards: Marbury, Nate, Crawford

for at least 30 games together. That brings us to the deadline.

AD, JJ, Rose should sit except for matchup or foul trouble situations.

Posted by fishmike:

3 guard line ups and size up front. I think thats our strength and I hope we see a lot more of that. Mo T is clearly more deserving than AD for PT.

Ariza is problem at the 3, he's simply not ready, but maybe we can make a move for a 3 down the road or the Q's come in and help us there

I would like to see what a rotation of
bigs: Frye/Curry + Mo T, Butler
wing: Q, Q, Ariza
guards: Marbury, Nate, Crawford

for at least 30 games together. That brings us to the deadline.

AD, JJ, Rose should sit except for matchup or foul trouble situations.

I concur. and do what the weird thing is. yesterday was our 19th game. brown's prediction of 20 games before he found a rotation, was pretty much accurate

[Edited by - SlimPack on 12-10-2005 10:59 AM]

Hmm, I missed the game yesterday, but it the rotation looks great from the minutes.

Looks like we got killed on the boards with both Frye and Curry starting thoug. We need some major help rebounding at the 3 with these two as the front court. Q is missed. Gusy can board like anything, and he was lookin like he was finally finding his game too.

Nice to see Frye get 9 brds and 2blks on a night when his shot must have been off.

It still boggles my mind how this team can't score at least 90 pts with a legit post threat, and Marbury.

i would agree IF the DNP's weren't jackie blue and ariza. that should really never happen.

but we do have a core group of marbury, nate, craw, frye, curry that play every night so that is something to build on.

Posted by Bonn1997:

i would agree IF the DNP's weren't jackie blue and ariza. that should really never happen.

Ariza got 31 min and Jackie got 13

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 12-10-2005 12:11 PM]

clippers game dude...

Im going to disagree--and here is why.

I like the Frye-Curry frontcourt long term. Lats night it was easy to pick apart why we could use a *Reggie Evans* type PF to atleast start the game--he may not be a perfect example for sure, but a guy who can come in and lay down the law in the post while Eddie Curry concnetrates on working it. Bringing in Frye at the 6minute mark when the game is progressing seems to me the best way to use him with out roster.


Trevor Ariza cannot start. It seems as if he has lost some confidence, but mainly he is not a starting caliber NBA SF as well as nate--although nate has played his best game and has shown some improvements in his mental and fundamental game. He was never over-extended and played within himself. But hes not a starter, nor should he be plucking 35 minutes. What teams can do is move off these guys and go down and bother Frye and Curry. Frye and Curry are not smart enough basketball wise to realize thre double team and move the ball. They both consistently
just continued into their moves no matter the D they were faced with.


Were going to face facts that we may have to give up some youth to improve the team. We may have to make some trades that bring back some 26-27 year old and give up a couple of 20 year olds, but its a process. Were not really a rebuilding team--we have Frye and Curry, I would like to keep Nate off the bench if at all possible--but to me guys like Ariza, Lee, Butler can be bundled with ending contracts since we dont have 1st round picks.

Craw
Nate
Q
Frye
Davis

Posted by tkf:

I like the rotation also fish, I was happy regardless of the loss, but one thing is becomming clear, the league is taking notice of our young bigs, it will be just a matter of time when Curry, frye and Butler are being talked about as one of the leagues best and young rotation of bigs

I'd like to think we could add Lee in there too. I'm not sure why he's not getting PT at SF at least while Q is out. I think Larry wants to add a bit more polish to his shot before putting him ahead of, say James or Butler, but I still think he can be a nice 2nd unit impact player.

But Larry gave his not so thinly veiled message to the league last night that he wants our bigs to get some respect from the refs, especially in the paint. When Fye gets his footwork down, and when we have the respect of the refs, our frontcourt will be impactful in crunch time.

That said though, I loved your line about Curry's free throw shooting, that fouling Eddy is like a turnover for the Knicks. Classic.

Posted by tomverve:

Fouling Curry is not at all like a turnover for the Knicks. Even if he only hits 50% from the line, efficiency wise that comes out to be the same thing as shooting 50% from the floor. You would like to have even more efficiency from the free throw line of course, and Eddy should be able to knock them in at a higher rate. But it's not like every time he's fouled it's a wasted possession.

No it doesnt. You get ONE point for a FT and two points for a FG IF its not a 3.

Example 4-8 Fts=4 points
4-8 FGs=8 points

Posted by eViL:

I think what Tom is trying to say is that if Curry gets fouled on every possession and hits one FT - it is equal to hitting a FG 50% of the time.

10 possessions = Curry 10/20 FT's = 10 points
10 possessions = 5/10 FG's = 10 points

well that's a little out there if thats what he is saying because it not reality based.

I like stats but i dont go overboard on them. there are to many intangibles that dont read in stats.

Im sure most basketball people count getting team stops and opponent FG% as the number 1/1a stat. in college and pro, there are always assistants charting defelections, executed picks, box outs etc... baketball is much more than efg%

Posted by BlueSeats:

Posted by tkf:

I like the rotation also fish, I was happy regardless of the loss, but one thing is becomming clear, the league is taking notice of our young bigs, it will be just a matter of time when Curry, frye and Butler are being talked about as one of the leagues best and young rotation of bigs

I'd like to think we could add Lee in there too. I'm not sure why he's not getting PT at SF at least while Q is out. I think Larry wants to add a bit more polish to his shot before putting him ahead of, say James or Butler, but I still think he can be a nice 2nd unit impact player.

But Larry gave his not so thinly veiled message to the league last night that he wants our bigs to get some respect from the refs, especially in the paint. When Fye gets his footwork down, and when we have the respect of the refs, our frontcourt will be impactful in crunch time.

That said though, I loved your line about Curry's free throw shooting, that fouling Eddy is like a turnover for the Knicks. Classic.

Yea, I didn't mean to forget lee, who IMO is one of the best rebounders on the team, I hate to think that LB can't find time for this kid, I hope he does. As far as curry goes, yea, I was so upset at him missing FT's. Him getting fouled was just like us throwing it out of bounds.... LOL..