Marbury/Nate
Crawford/Q
Ariza/Q/Malik
Frye/Lee/Malik
Butler/Curry/JJ

IR: Penny, Mo Taylor

Waive: AD

AD sucks. He has the worst plus/minus of any starter in the league. He puts this team in a hole at the start of every first and third quarter. NBA games are usually determined by who sets the tone for the second half in the third quarter. As long as AD comes out to start the third quarter, we will be playing from behind. Even in the recent wins, the team has had to come back from AD's Bullsh!t. I'm not sure why Brown is blind to this.

This team does not need a trade. It is not missing anything. Sure, it could use an all-star at the SF position, but that would make them dominant. Save Penny's contract for that. Waive AD. Immediately. It will be addition by subtraction to waive AD. It's the single best move this team can make.

For now, Curry should come off the bench. We need to get off to a fast start in the first and third quarters with Frye and Crawford and Marbury.

We have the personnel to win right now, I'm not sure why Larry Brown can't see this.

we should win more games with this team, that is why it is so frustrating, we have the talent and the athletcism, I think mentally we are just not tough enough yet, not mature enough...

AD is a valuable asset. Not because he plays. But because he gets paid. That max salary will be a boon to those of us who aren't counting dollars and cents. No waiving of AD will occur.

Does Marbury only start because he's from Coney Island?

Posted by fishmike:

Does Marbury only start because he's from Coney Island?

that's actually been our constant joke this season amongst my friends. sadly, Frye is from White Plains, but apparently it doesn't count because he moved to Vermont when he was young...

Posted by TemujinKnick:

What happened to LB saying Frye had earned the starting spot?

LIES, DAMMIT, LIES!

Posted by BRIGGS:

no way. the knicks are desperate for curry to become the "guy who comes areound every ten years" and for a SF who can[or should] play more than 20 minutes

Im just looking at yesterday Paul Pierce was the best player on the floor and Ricky Davis was better than any Knick-Marbury. They also have guys like Perkins 6-10 260 Jefferson 6-10 260 who have a lot of talent and their PG--West is MORE than adequate. Why are the Knicks superior? we lost to them twice with all of our guys.

a) we didn't have all our guys - Frye didn't play in the first game and Crawford was injured yesterday at a critical stretch and Curry wasn't playing anywhere near full speed.

b) I'm saying the way the roster is being used, particularly by starting AD we have no chance to win. But the roster could EASILY be tweaked for better results.

I think LB is still trying to prove a point by playing AD. I just don't think anyone understands what that point is.

Posted by nixluva:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

no way. the knicks are desperate for curry to become the "guy who comes areound every ten years" and for a SF who can[or should] play more than 20 minutes

Im just looking at yesterday Paul Pierce was the best player on the floor and Ricky Davis was better than any Knick-Marbury. They also have guys like Perkins 6-10 260 Jefferson 6-10 260 who have a lot of talent and their PG--West is MORE than adequate. Why are the Knicks superior? we lost to them twice with all of our guys.

We actually out played them with the exception of the final score and that had a LOT to do with all the TO's. IF LB would have started the right guys, we would have had a big lead to start this game. The Celtics took advantage of our sloppy offense. If you're gonna start Curry you HAVE to put Frye, JC and Q or Lee out there. Q for his shooting, Lee for his reboiunding, but Frye and JC are 2 of our most dependable scorers. Curry would have had so much more room to catch the ball and make his moves and if they doubled we could have made them pay with our shooters. But LB put the wrong guys on the floor and the offense bogged down. We had a lead but it should have been a much bigger lead.

Why are two of our top scorers consistently coming off the bench? What team does that?


ben gordon luol deng. john starks anthony mason kevin mchale bill walton its just an excuse if frye was playing 5 minutes id agree with you.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by nixluva:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

no way. the knicks are desperate for curry to become the "guy who comes areound every ten years" and for a SF who can[or should] play more than 20 minutes

Im just looking at yesterday Paul Pierce was the best player on the floor and Ricky Davis was better than any Knick-Marbury. They also have guys like Perkins 6-10 260 Jefferson 6-10 260 who have a lot of talent and their PG--West is MORE than adequate. Why are the Knicks superior? we lost to them twice with all of our guys.

We actually out played them with the exception of the final score and that had a LOT to do with all the TO's. IF LB would have started the right guys, we would have had a big lead to start this game. The Celtics took advantage of our sloppy offense. If you're gonna start Curry you HAVE to put Frye, JC and Q or Lee out there. Q for his shooting, Lee for his reboiunding, but Frye and JC are 2 of our most dependable scorers. Curry would have had so much more room to catch the ball and make his moves and if they doubled we could have made them pay with our shooters. But LB put the wrong guys on the floor and the offense bogged down. We had a lead but it should have been a much bigger lead.

Why are two of our top scorers consistently coming off the bench? What team does that?


ben gordon luol deng. john starks anthony mason kevin mchale bill walton its just an excuse if frye was playing 5 minutes id agree with you.

Briggs, look at when at the start of these 3rd quaters. How many opposing players will have to take to get the message out, everyone of them says that their young guys give them alot of energy but you still see the "captain of defense" out there in the 3rd. Ben Gordan already made the point about getting into these games. Some coaches believe in a certain way. I don't understand it but it works sometimes and sometimes it don't. Please don't use Starks, McHale or Walton in your comparisons because they had talented people starting in front of them as well. I mean you are such a BB whiz (no pun intended, seriously), you have to know that it is difference when you are starting Parish over Walton right. Even starting Houston over Starks, was a good move. Tell me how AD is signficantly better than Frye at this point. Head to head Frye leads him in all categories with similar minutes. AD isn't even giving the Knicks the rebounding presence everyone thought he would.

Posted by crzymdups:

Marbury/Nate
Crawford/Q
Ariza/Q/Malik
Frye/Lee/Malik
Butler/Curry/JJ

IR: Penny, Mo Taylor

Waive: AD

AD sucks. He has the worst plus/minus of any starter in the league. He puts this team in a hole at the start of every first and third quarter. NBA games are usually determined by who sets the tone for the second half in the third quarter. As long as AD comes out to start the third quarter, we will be playing from behind. Even in the recent wins, the team has had to come back from AD's Bullsh!t. I'm not sure why Brown is blind to this.

This team does not need a trade. It is not missing anything. Sure, it could use an all-star at the SF position, but that would make them dominant. Save Penny's contract for that. Waive AD. Immediately. It will be addition by subtraction to waive AD. It's the single best move this team can make.

For now, Curry should come off the bench. We need to get off to a fast start in the first and third quarters with Frye and Crawford and Marbury.

We have the personnel to win right now, I'm not sure why Larry Brown can't see this.

Here are 2 reasons:

1) This team is so poorly put together.

2) They aren't good enough.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by islesfan:


Here are 2 reasons:

1) This team is so poorly put together.

2) They aren't good enough.

Isles, thanks as always for your valuable, well thought out points.

No problem. Glad I could help.