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Nalod
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12/5/2005  9:18 AM

I liked it better when they were the "Super" Sonics!

I guess Craw and Lil' Nate will start.



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12/5/2005  9:25 AM
Yet another team with a bunch of shooters we can't guard. Allen and Lewis will have a field day. Vlad Rad will probably go off on us. Marbury and Frye should do okay but it won't be enough. Lewis is 6-10 and can play inside and out--who the heck is going to guard him?

[Edited by - Knight on 12-05-2005 09:30 AM]
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12/5/2005  9:34 AM
Posted by Knight:

Yet another team with a bunch of shooters we can't guard. Allen and Lewis will have a field day. Vlad Rad will probably go off on us. Marbury and Frye should do okay but it won't be enough. Lewis is 6-10 and can play inside and out--who the heck is going to guard him?

[Edited by - Knight on 12-05-2005 09:30 AM]

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12/5/2005  9:47 AM
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12/5/2005  11:08 AM
Luke Ridnour > Steph
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12/5/2005  11:27 AM
Posted by McK1:

Luke Ridnour > Steph
congrats for the dumbest post of the year
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12/5/2005  11:34 AM
Posted by NYK3:
Posted by McK1:

Luke Ridnour > Steph
congrats for the dumbest post of the year

he isn't?

here comes a stat argument

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-05-2005 11:34 AM]
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12/5/2005  11:56 AM
im not into stats but c'mon man do you honestly think Ridnour is better than Steph?
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12/5/2005  11:59 AM
comparing the raw talent, no. but comparing their on-court performance as point guards, ABSOLUTELY!
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12/5/2005  12:16 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by NYK3:
Posted by McK1:

Luke Ridnour > Steph
congrats for the dumbest post of the year

he isn't?

here comes a stat argument

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-05-2005 11:34 AM]


while you are at it, pull the stats of Michael Jordan and Allen iverson and tell me if you think that Iverson is that close to Jordan as a player.... stats can like my friend...
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12/5/2005  12:25 PM
Jordan shot over 50% for his career, Iverson is in the low 40's. Jordan wa the premier post guard of his era, premier finisher, and premier defender. Noone today is better at penetrating and drawing contact than AI is and he scores a ton from all over but his game is, and has never been, in no way similar to Mike's.

However there is a guy named Kobe, another one named Wade, and a third one named Lebron to watch out for. Any of the 3 may end up fitting the bill.
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12/5/2005  12:31 PM
Posted by McK1:

Jordan shot over 50% for his career, Iverson is in the low 40's. Jordan wa the premier post guard of his era, premier finisher, and premier defender. Noone today is better at penetrating and drawing contact than AI is and he scores a ton from all over but his game is, and has never been, in no way similar to Mike's.

However there is a guy named Kobe, another one named Wade, and a third one named Lebron to watch out for. Any of the 3 may end up fitting the bill.

so what is the point of that post? The same applies for marbury who has been a premier PG in the league for years, he is a better scorer, defender and assist man than ridnour, he penetrates the lane much better than ridnour does, he scores more than he does, and commands more double teams... So to even hint that ridnour is a better PG is a joke, steph may not be the best Pg in the leauge but he is damn sure better than ridnour. Almost in the same way you described Jordan being better than AI...
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12/5/2005  12:55 PM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by McK1:

Jordan shot over 50% for his career, Iverson is in the low 40's. Jordan wa the premier post guard of his era, premier finisher, and premier defender. Noone today is better at penetrating and drawing contact than AI is and he scores a ton from all over but his game is, and has never been, in no way similar to Mike's.

However there is a guy named Kobe, another one named Wade, and a third one named Lebron to watch out for. Any of the 3 may end up fitting the bill.

so what is the point of that post? The same applies for marbury who has been a premier PG in the league for years, he is a better scorer, defender and assist man than ridnour, he penetrates the lane much better than ridnour does, he scores more than he does, and commands more double teams... So to even hint that ridnour is a better PG is a joke, steph may not be the best Pg in the leauge but he is damn sure better than ridnour. Almost in the same way you described Jordan being better than AI...

first off
Marbury is not a Jordan, nor has he been a premier anything

secondly
If Ridnour held the ball as much as Steph he'd have similar statistical numbers as well.

watch Seattle, watch how guys catch clean passes at the hands where they can easily raise and fire. Ray and Rashard come off curls and the ball meets them in a way that the transition into whatever move they are going to make is smooth as ice. Ridnour drives the baseline and keeps his dribble alive. He drives the lane with his head up. He is a good on the ball defender. He can defend full court. He plays the passing lane better. And most importantly Seattle is 60-32 with Ridnour as a starter. And plz don;'t make references to the rosters because the last 2 seasons Seattle was picked to finish in the basement and are not picked to be a play-off team again this season while the Knicks were picked to win the Atlantic last season and contend for a play-off spot this season.

comparing Steph and Luke is like comparing Aaron Brooks and Delhomme. The numbers will not tell the entire story.

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-05-2005 12:55 PM]
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12/5/2005  1:09 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by tkf:
Posted by McK1:

Jordan shot over 50% for his career, Iverson is in the low 40's. Jordan wa the premier post guard of his era, premier finisher, and premier defender. Noone today is better at penetrating and drawing contact than AI is and he scores a ton from all over but his game is, and has never been, in no way similar to Mike's.

However there is a guy named Kobe, another one named Wade, and a third one named Lebron to watch out for. Any of the 3 may end up fitting the bill.

so what is the point of that post? The same applies for marbury who has been a premier PG in the league for years, he is a better scorer, defender and assist man than ridnour, he penetrates the lane much better than ridnour does, he scores more than he does, and commands more double teams... So to even hint that ridnour is a better PG is a joke, steph may not be the best Pg in the leauge but he is damn sure better than ridnour. Almost in the same way you described Jordan being better than AI...

first off
Marbury is not a Jordan, nor has he been a premier anything

secondly
If Ridnour held the ball as much as Steph he'd have similar statistical numbers as well.

watch Seattle, watch how guys catch clean passes at the hands where they can easily raise and fire. Ray and Rashard come off curls and the ball meets them in a way that the transition into whatever move they are going to make is smooth as ice. Ridnour drives the baseline and keeps his dribble alive. He drives the lane with his head up. He is a good on the ball defender. He can defend full court. He plays the passing lane better. And most importantly Seattle is 60-32 with Ridnour as a starter. And plz don;'t make references to the rosters because the last 2 seasons Seattle was picked to finish in the basement and are not picked to be a play-off team again this season while the Knicks were picked to win the Atlantic last season and contend for a play-off spot this season.

comparing Steph and Luke is like comparing Aaron Brooks and Delhomme. The numbers will not tell the entire story.

[Edited by - McK1 on 12-05-2005 12:55 PM]

This is a ridculous post but yeah if I was passing the ball to Ray Allen and Lewis I would like a genius too. I mean come on. Marbury's problem is that he falls in love with his drive. It is so effective. To bad that Nate doesn't run point that well, with someone with his speed, he would do a better job setting up people.
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12/5/2005  1:12 PM
he is also passing to household names like Flip Murray Damien Wilkins, and Nick Collison.
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12/5/2005  1:18 PM
^ while we are on household names. Ariza, Q, Rose, AD.
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12/5/2005  1:23 PM
Q is household and last year Ariza was the next T-Mac, Marion. Ad is shooting bad this year. Last year he shot 46%. Could the difference be the guy throwing him the ball. Rose isn't really an outside shooter but Marbury keeps looking for him when his own drive isn't there. Here's a novel idea. Go earlier. When you pass to Rose go get it back like AI and Nash do rather than hold 15 seconds, drive, the D collapses now Rose is shooting because the shot clock is winding down.
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12/5/2005  1:44 PM
Posted by McK1:

Q is household and last year Ariza was the next T-Mac, Marion. Ad is shooting bad this year. Last year he shot 46%. Could the difference be the guy throwing him the ball. Rose isn't really an outside shooter but Marbury keeps looking for him when his own drive isn't there. Here's a novel idea. Go earlier. When you pass to Rose go get it back like AI and Nash do rather than hold 15 seconds, drive, the D collapses now Rose is shooting because the shot clock is winding down.


come on man, I have seen ridnour play enough times and the guy is a average PG at best, I guarantee you replace marbury with ridnour on the sonics and they could contend in the west and ray allen and Lewis will still get clean sharp passes to jack up their threes. Give me a break man..
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12/5/2005  1:45 PM
and usually Ray allen initiates a lot of the offense himself off the dribble, as well as Lewis, these guys are just not pick and pop players, hell they could do just as well without ridnour and his weak ass game.....
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12/5/2005  1:52 PM
Posted by tkf:

and usually Ray allen initiates a lot of the offense himself off the dribble, as well as Lewis, these guys are just not pick and pop players, hell they could do just as well without ridnour and his weak ass game.....

you think so?

after reading the 15 page diatribe against Wade you started on realgm, your train of thought on great guard play doesn't suprise me.
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