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Killa4luv
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11/28/2005  9:54 PM
He has scored over 20 a grand total of ONCE.

We cannot consistantly win when the guy who is supposed to be our 2nd option on offense shoots 5 shots and misses most of them.

How many bad games has he had?
No how many good games has he had? about 2.

This isn't about losing one game, this is about a trend and a horrific start to the season.

Our reliable scorers are:
Steph
Frye

and then everyone else is a huge ****ing question mark (until Curry returns).

Part of the production problems have to do with the rotations though too.
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martin
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11/28/2005  10:00 PM
I keep reminding myself that Chancey played like crap for about a half season when Brown took over. It'll take time before guys like Q and Craw find their groove.
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11/28/2005  10:00 PM
Craw looks to be trying to make the pass alot more than he used to, though. It takes time to find the flow, but Craw better hurry up and get with it. We need him as a reliable scoring option.
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11/28/2005  10:04 PM
Posted by martin:

I keep reminding myself that Chancey played like crap for about a half season when Brown took over. It'll take time before guys like Q and Craw find their groove.


Yeah I agree with that. I'm not too worried about Craw, he's shown flashes of being able to play in the offense but he's still not fully used to it so he's going to have his ups and downs. It'll come to him.
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11/28/2005  10:21 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

He has scored over 20 a grand total of ONCE.

We cannot consistantly win when the guy who is supposed to be our 2nd option on offense shoots 5 shots and misses most of them.

How many bad games has he had?
No how many good games has he had? about 2.

This isn't about losing one game, this is about a trend and a horrific start to the season.

Our reliable scorers are:
Steph
Frye

and then everyone else is a huge ****ing question mark (until Curry returns).

Part of the production problems have to do with the rotations though too.

Pretty much the whole team needs to get their heads out of their asses, this game was pathetic especially after the Great Game on Sunday, to have such a downer is inexcusable.
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11/28/2005  10:54 PM
plain and simple we need consistency. i dont mind losing by 3 or 5 points, as long as we play the "right way" every game. i see one improvement one game and we fall back the next. we need to get our act together.
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11/28/2005  10:56 PM
Good job Isiah!!!! Great contract!!!!!!
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11/28/2005  11:01 PM
Its the ever changing rotation. If it were any other coach brown would be a candidate to be fired come Christmas.

The team has yet to gel. By now the knicks should know what they have. Everything is still a question mark.

What is the record now? If things don't change on the court by game 15-20 the season would be lost and it would be Larry browns fault. But we have to except it right cuz brown is a tough coach?
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Nalod
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11/28/2005  11:11 PM

Remember, this was all supppose to happen. The bad start was well predicted by the media and larry himself.

The oracle told me also.

Its all larrys fault. teaching them young guys how to play. We are playing lots of rookies big minutes. Butler and Reezy getting run. This is all good!
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11/28/2005  11:31 PM
Posted by FireIsiah:

Good job Isiah!!!! Great contract!!!!!!
so what do you suggest, layden?

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11/28/2005  11:42 PM
Nalod is pretty much right. This season has been painful, but we are seeing good things, like the progress in the youngin's. But hey, this is rebuilding. We all called for it. We all expected this stuff. We still have holes to fill, we still need a go to guy besides a rookie and a pg who seems to be losing his step a little. There's still sooo much to be done.
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11/29/2005  12:00 AM
Crawford is the 2nd option in your mind only. Like it or not - The ball is going to the bigs.
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11/29/2005  12:26 AM
He played 23 minutes and shot 5 of 6 from the field, he had 3 assists, and 3 rebounds.

He scored 13 points in 23 minutes. Look at the box before you let your preconceptions sway you towards making a bad argument. Relax.


[Edited by - rain on 11-29-2005 12:27 AM]
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11/29/2005  12:26 AM
Posted by daddynel:
Posted by FireIsiah:

Good job Isiah!!!! Great contract!!!!!!
so what do you suggest, layden?

This guy shoots 38% from the field and Isiah gives him 60 mill. Awful from the start, he is the worst 2 guard in the league even layden knows that.
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11/29/2005  1:40 AM
And in other news....I just realized what Nolad's name is all about.
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11/29/2005  1:46 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

This season has been painful, but we are seeing good things, like the progress in the youngin's.

we are seeing good things from frye. somewhat good things from nate. not enough minutes for lee and ariza actually playing worse.
so it's not like EVERYONE is progressing. and if you want to count Q, that just adds another negative. i know it's a process but we are shaken as we can not build off that emotional game saturday. that's progress - building from game to game. forget about individuals. we gave up a TON of 3's vs. charlotte only to play last night and give up another ton of 3's to miami. where's the progress there?

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11/29/2005  7:13 AM
he shot 5-6 last night. You want good shots or him to chuck?
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11/29/2005  7:51 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

Its the ever changing rotation. If it were any other coach brown would be a candidate to be fired come Christmas.

The team has yet to gel. By now the knicks should know what they have. Everything is still a question mark.

What is the record now? If things don't change on the court by game 15-20 the season would be lost and it would be Larry browns fault. But we have to except it right cuz brown is a tough coach?

Wrong! Not if this was any other coach. If this wasn't Isiah's SECOND
hall of fame coach, and if Isiah hadn't fired (and was still not paying)
the first one after less then a full season!

Isiah has his reputation riding on this, too. He's not teflon.

[Edited by - panos on 11-29-2005 07:56 AM]
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11/29/2005  8:09 AM
Wrong! Not if this was any other coach. If this wasn't Isiah's SECOND
hall of fame coach, and if Isiah hadn't fired (and was still not paying)
the first one after less then a full season!

Isiah has his reputation riding on this, too. He's not teflon.

[Edited by - panos on 11-29-2005 07:56 AM]

Lenny isn't Larry brown. Neown is looked st as one of the best in the world. Lenny was seen as a old timer that was missing some marbles. He had those Vince quotes too that hanted him.

I don't understand what the caps were for. Its not like you made me look like Briggs or something, wink.
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11/29/2005  8:17 AM
Wrong! Not if this was any other coach. If this wasn't Isiah's SECOND
hall of fame coach, and if Isiah hadn't fired (and was still not paying)
the first one after less then a full season!

Isiah has his reputation riding on this, too. He's not teflon.

[Edited by - panos on 11-29-2005 07:56 AM]

Lenny isn't Larry brown. Neown is looked st as one of the best in the world. Lenny was seen as a old timer that was missing some marbles. He had those Vince quotes too that hanted him.

I don't understand what the caps were for. Its not like you made me look like Briggs or something, wink.
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