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Thank You Channing Frye, you personally stopped the bleeding
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BRIGGS
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11/26/2005  3:40 PM
with your superior offensive skills while the Ny Knicks were playing like garbage and on their way to 3-9. Everyone picked it up after YOU started it. Special props out to Larry Brown for playing my favorite style--3 guards and two bigs, almost impossible to guard--the same offense that we used a lot in previous years and why the Bulls are good with what looks like a rag tag team.

Marbury gets the last prop for playing stady every game. Its so hard to determine what the hll to do with Marbury, but realistically it could be in our bets interests to find another guard who can really play and go 3 guards a lot.

nice shot nate--scrw all the people who think you sck, but I would still trade you for mike james and a 2006 2nd tomorrow morning:>) want to let you enjoy the night:>)

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BRIGGS
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11/26/2005  3:43 PM
by the way, replay that dunk by nate on the baseline. a one-handed tomahawk that wouldve gone down even if they continued play
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11/26/2005  3:45 PM
Me and Briggs agree!!!!

Good post Briggs, minus the Mike James part. I like your points about Marbury and Frye, they are right on.

That dunk by Nate was SICK, that got the crowd going a little bit more even though it didn't mean anything.
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11/26/2005  3:46 PM
Its so hard to determine what the hll to do with Marbury
It's not too hard for me. After the last few games, let's just let him continue to use his gifted skills on our team and improve while getting more comfortable in Larry's system.

with your superior offensive skills
AND superior rebounding. His rebounding efficiency has been excellent.
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11/26/2005  3:51 PM
Dunno if nba.com is going to show the Nate dunk. Can someone find it and post please!!
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11/26/2005  3:52 PM
Thank you, Channing for not being the "low ceiling and soft" type of player many described you as.

Had to get that in.
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11/26/2005  3:54 PM
I think Marbury will be fine. He'll get better and better if Fyre gets more time. Look what happened when we ran the pick and roll every time down the court in the second half. Fyre made shots, philly had to adjust, and it allowed Marbury to get to the rim with ease.

Fyre not only scored and rebounded but got Marbury, Crawford, and Nate so many baskets and easy looks because he sets incredible screens. That's what playing 4 years at a big time program gives you -- fundamentals.

Until Curry is back, our offense should be pick and rolls and pick and rolls and variations on the pick and rolls. I loved the double pick -- Rose setting a screen, Frye a few yards behind him and then rolling after setting the second screen -- it allowed Marbury to get to the rim with a hesitation dribble.

Lets get Fyre more shots by putting him in the post. Once Curry comes back, we're going to start being tough on the offensive end.
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11/26/2005  4:00 PM
Posted by Ray15:

I think Marbury will be fine. He'll get better and better if Fyre gets more time. Look what happened when we ran the pick and roll every time down the court in the second half. Fyre made shots, philly had to adjust, and it allowed Marbury to get to the rim with ease.

Fyre not only scored and rebounded but got Marbury, Crawford, and Nate so many baskets and easy looks because he sets incredible screens. That's what playing 4 years at a big time program gives you -- fundamentals.

Until Curry is back, our offense should be pick and rolls and pick and rolls and variations on the pick and rolls. I loved the double pick -- Rose setting a screen, Frye a few yards behind him and then rolling after setting the second screen -- it allowed Marbury to get to the rim with a hesitation dribble.

Lets get Fyre more shots by putting him in the post. Once Curry comes back, we're going to start being tough on the offensive end.


Excellent post Ray! I think Frye and Curry are really going to compliment each other really well once Curry comes back from his injury. Amazingly enough, Frye might be the player/shooter that the Knicks so-despereately needed to stretch defenses so they cant just collapse down onto Curry. With that, Channing will see alot of 1 on 1 coverage midrange and Curry will see alot less double-teaming downlow. Between Curry scoring in the post, Channing dominating the mid-range game and Marbury/Crawford slashing too the hoop, the Knicks offense is indeed going to be pretty tough to stop. The 76ers are no roll over and the Knicks really played well today, probably the best game offensively and defensively I've seen from the Knicks in a long while.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-26-2005 4:01 PM]
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11/26/2005  4:31 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Thank you, Channing for not being the "low ceiling and soft" type of player many described you as.

Had to get that in.
LOL! I was really going after guns cause he was one of the biggest anti-Channing guys. He has accepted his mistake. "I was dead wrong about Frye" were his exact words.

Now if he only admits he was wrong about Kwame.
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11/26/2005  4:40 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

Thank you, Channing for not being the "low ceiling and soft" type of player many described you as.

Had to get that in.
Or the bust he was declared as after getting in foul trouble in the 2nd game of the summer league! Had to get that in too!

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11/26/2005  4:45 PM
Craw also made some big shots, but he is erratic as hell.
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11/26/2005  5:19 PM
man... if 21/11 is Frye's "low" ceiling, that'd be fantastic. :)
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11/26/2005  5:24 PM
I'm so excited for how good Frye can be.

Briggs, that's an interesting point about the three guard lineup. it's too bad Q has no confidence left or he could be a part of that.
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11/26/2005  5:30 PM
1-0 with Frye in the starting lineup! It's a new season baby!
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11/26/2005  5:32 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

I'm so excited for how good Frye can be.

Briggs, that's an interesting point about the three guard lineup. it's too bad Q has no confidence left or he could be a part of that.

3 guards spreads the defense out more, much harder to guard. Thats why Im in favor of getting James and Patterson. Maybe we dont have to give up nate? but having James Marbury and Crawford would be IMPOSSIBLE to guard with any combination of two bigs upfront

and when you play elite level SFs or just want to go physical and big you have a Patterson who plays SF--obvioulsy starts SF full time

I would go like this

C-Curry
F-Frye
F Patterson
G Marbury
G James
6th man Crawford
wish we had steven hunter here
Davis
Rose
Ariza
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11/26/2005  5:36 PM
well in all fairness to those who were talking about Frye's ceiling. I'm pretty sure it was in comparison to KG's
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11/26/2005  5:38 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

1-0 with Frye in the starting lineup! It's a new season baby!

yeah it annoys the hell out of me when people backed up Larry for starting the old, overpaid bums who always put us in a hole too big to climb out of over our best players who would actually help us win more games

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 11-26-2005 5:48 PM]
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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by crzymdups:

I'm so excited for how good Frye can be.

Briggs, that's an interesting point about the three guard lineup. it's too bad Q has no confidence left or he could be a part of that.

3 guards spreads the defense out more, much harder to guard. Thats why Im in favor of getting James and Patterson. Maybe we dont have to give up nate? but having James Marbury and Crawford would be IMPOSSIBLE to guard with any combination of two bigs upfront

and when you play elite level SFs or just want to go physical and big you have a Patterson who plays SF--obvioulsy starts SF full time

I would go like this

C-Curry
F-Frye
F Patterson
G Marbury
G James
6th man Crawford
wish we had steven hunter here
Davis
Rose
Ariza


yeah, the fact that we could've had Stephen Hunter instead of JJ makes me sick sometimes.

I see what you're saying, and I think Patterson would help and be a smart addition. I don't think Mike James would be on the market though. That team would AWFUL without James.

I agree though that another guard would be nice, I just don't know what would be available. Isiah should try to get a first round pick when he trades AD. I have much more faith in him drafting a guy like that than trading for him.


[Edited by - crzymdups on 11-26-2005 5:40 PM]

[Edited by - crzymdups on 11-26-2005 5:40 PM]
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11/26/2005  5:53 PM
Frye's gonna be a big star. New York loves a team player who can score, pass, defend and board.
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11/26/2005  5:56 PM
I got the pleasure of seeing that dunk by Nate live, and I HOPE HOPE HOPE it wont be the only one.

Channing was the frikkin' man today, but his rebounding is definitely not superior yet. He still gets boxed out easily, but he's definitely making strides. I see no reason why he can't be that eventual 20 and 8 player I said he would be.
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