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rojasmas
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11/18/2005  10:13 PM
Salaries match, and Hill comes off the books in a year regardless of injury or ineffectiveness.
Then we get rid of him and find ourselves a free agent supreme. They can have two knuckleheads in Steve Francis and Steph. Clones if you like.
We could be the Dallas Mavs of the East.
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11/18/2005  10:14 PM
get off the crack
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11/18/2005  10:14 PM
Posted by rojasmas:

They can have two knuckleheads in Steve Francis and Steph. Clones if you like.
thats exactly why Orlando would never do that trade

I wasn't born with enough middle fingers!!!
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11/18/2005  10:16 PM
But they would be fine to watch. Orlando, the land of Mickey Mouse! Pure entertainment value!
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11/18/2005  10:20 PM
find ourselves a free agent supreme
Please explain how that would work
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11/18/2005  10:28 PM
Hill wouldn't have a contract after 1 year with the Knicks. Then, we would have the room to get a free agent supreme. Comprende? Salary cap? You are the expert, are you not? Hill's contract would be worth (I am guessing but I will get back to you if you want, about $15 million a year). Off the books. Space, to sign someone new.
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11/18/2005  10:30 PM
I was real close. Here is Hill's salary for the next two years.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm
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11/18/2005  10:43 PM
Posted by rojasmas:

Hill wouldn't have a contract after 1 year with the Knicks. Then, we would have the room to get a free agent supreme. Comprende? Salary cap? You are the expert, are you not? Hill's contract would be worth (I am guessing but I will get back to you if you want, about $15 million a year). Off the books. Space, to sign someone new.
We'd still be a trillion dollars over the cap without Marbury. Nice try
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11/18/2005  10:48 PM
Id actuallhy still make this trade, cuase itll be really hard to get rid of marbury's contract, and this seems to be an accceptable way to do so
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11/19/2005  12:04 AM
Posted by rojasmas:

Hill wouldn't have a contract after 1 year with the Knicks. Then, we would have the room to get a free agent supreme. Comprende? Salary cap? You are the expert, are you not? Hill's contract would be worth (I am guessing but I will get back to you if you want, about $15 million a year). Off the books. Space, to sign someone new.


now if we could jsut be sure someone will sign on a team that will have open competition at every spot other than center...
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11/19/2005  12:06 AM
Well, this year our total salary is at 116 million. In a few years (2007-2008) our cap will go down significantly. It will go down all the way to about 49 million, assuming we did the Marbury for Hill trade, and then didn't resign Hill. Also, remember, Penny is coming off the books. If we would still be over the cap, please post proof of that, at that 49 million, without the Hill and Hardaway contracts.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york.htm
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11/19/2005  12:11 AM
yes.....grant hill is the answer.


DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
rojasmas
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11/19/2005  12:13 AM
Are you a capologist? Expound... please.
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11/19/2005  12:16 AM
Posted by rojasmas:

Are you a capologist? Expound... please.


too lazy to use the dictionary.....my apologies
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/19/2005  12:19 AM
I don't want Grant Hill either. But he is an overpaid guy like Marbury. Just trying to make the numbers work so we can get this team better.
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11/19/2005  12:27 AM
^hill's more of a team player for sure, but he's overpaid, even more so than steph, and really injury prone and over the hill...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/19/2005  12:27 AM
^ did ya catch that?

over the HILL....

DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/19/2005  12:33 AM
You are not thinking cap. Marbury's contract isn't expiring for awhile. Hill's is. That's the difference.
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11/19/2005  12:36 AM
Posted by rojasmas:

You are not thinking cap. Marbury's contract isn't expiring for awhile. Hill's is. That's the difference.


while we're at it we might as well get an expiring contract straight up.

hill still has 2 years left. marbury 4.

hill will miss, most likely, atleast 1/3 of those games. marbury will not.

i still don't like steph as our franchise player, but i'll take his 4 years over hill's 2 anyday.

not to mention marbury still has trade value...
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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11/19/2005  12:41 AM
hill may be more overpaid than steph but his contract his alot smaller. thats why i'd do this trade but orlando probably wouldnt unless they got desperate.
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