this was swiped from some posts on the atlanta board on realgm by altanta fans discussing the possibilities of trading for steph:


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If the Knicks are willing to "dump" Marbury, then maybe we can put togther a deal for him with Harrington & Delk at the core. I tried putting Lue in the deal, but he can't be dealt until Dec. 15th. Can the league waive that restriction?

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Wouldn't acquiring Marbury basically eat up all possible salary we have to spend on anyone else for years to come? He's not worth the risk to me. It would be lethal to have him and JJ in the backcourt though.

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I believe the thing that this team really needs is a PG. While I haven't necessarily given up on JJ yet, I have a feeling that a PG will make him and everyone else a lot better. Otherwise, we're just trying to play street ball out there.

I think Marbury, attitude aside, is a top PG in this league and would make a huge difference for this team. Harrington unfortunately is an obvious choice to put in a trade offer. Delk is too. Lue is probably one to keep to ensure that our PG play stays solid. I think Josh Smith or Childress might be another option to add in. I personally would rather keep Chill because I feel he can become a better role player for our team than Smith.

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Stephon has 3 years left.

I really like the cap room strategy, but I do think the major draw back is that the best free-agents never leave the team the drafted them.

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Getting Marbury now is a Pete Babcock move. It would be tantamount to the JR Rider debacle only with a 3 year commitment this time. Rebuilding is a process. Babcock tried to shortcut it by bringing in risky veterans like that and that's why 8 years later or however long it's been now, we're still rebuilding. BK got it right in tearing down Pete's last effort of JT, Shareef, and Theo and the process is slow but it's working.

Marbury would be a longterm step backward even though he may bring a little more respectability and a few more wins right now. If we bring in a PG it needs to be a distributor who can play outstanding defense and run the offense. Cenk Akyol may be our guy next year if we can get him over here from Europe. There's a video link over on Hawksquawk in a thread that shows Cenk making a sick pass around two defenders to hit an open teammate for a dunk. Be patient. Marbury is not the answer.

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Atlanta would definitely win more games if they got Marbury and would have an outside shot of making the playoffs. He is in the prime of his career and winning is always a nice feeling, especially for young players in the league. Seeing how players like Amare, KG and to a lesser extent Ariza all played well with Marbs, he'd be a good fit for this team. You'd lose salary cap space, but unless you're expecting, not hoping, to sign Ben Wallace , Nene or Pryzbilla, then '06 will be a waste. There isn't much in '07. I don't know what's in '08 and Marbury would be an expiring contract for 08-09.


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People who don't want Marbury simply believe that some magic free agent will appear out of the ether of the universe and take us to the promised land. Or better yet they believe that we can draft one. What in our 40 year history would make you believe that we can draft anyone of consequence...hell we didn't technically draft Nique'

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I think trading Marbury back is a perfect solution for you guys. Not to gurantee you guys will win and make the playoffs, but to shake up your team and to let people know you guys are capable to win games.

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What are saving salary cap room for? All of the significant big men have already moved. Remember we tried to get them....Dampier, Kenyon Martin, Eddy Curry. Illguaskis resigned and Magloire went to the Bucks. The only free agent will be Prizbilla...are we saving our money for him? We need to sign Marbury, develop our youth, and just pray that a decent big man falls in our lap in the draft.

ya know, for a place like Atlanta, which does have trouble drawing free agents, they may be right that nabbing Steph is better then waiting for something else. That franchise is in desperate need of some credibility and until Steph's personality puts him in the center of turmoil, which he's managed to find himself in on EVERY team he's been on, he does add a few wins and sells a few jerseys.

They're in the dumpster, they have no chemistry to begin with, his contract only has three years left now, what have they got to lose?

Posted by BlueSeats:

ya know, for a place like Atlanta, which does have trouble drawing free agents, they may be right that nabbing Steph is better then waiting for something else. That franchise is in desperate need of some credibility and until Steph's personality puts him in the center of turmoil, which he's managed to find himself in on EVERY team he's been on, he does add a few wins and sells a few jerseys.

They're in the dumpster, they have no chemistry to begin with, his contract only has three years left now, what have they got to lose?

I go to a lot of hawks games blue, marbs would be perfect here, he went to college here, has plenty of fans, will fill seats and he and JJ actually give the Hawks a hell of a backcourt, at least scoring wise. For the next 3 years,Atlanta will rally behind the team because they will at least win more than 15 games, and they can push marbs and JJ as two stars in Atlanta... But the problem is the junk they want to give us in return, If we do that, I want Harrington, a first round pick, top 5 protected for atlanta, and josh smith... they won't do that, but that is what I would want back..

I like the idea of Atlanta wanting Marbury becuase I think that is the one place left that would really take a chance on Steph. Unfortunately after going over their roster I don't see too much that warrants us getting enough back for Steph. I like the idea of Harrington but there is no one else that either I want or Atlanta would give up aka Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams, Salim Stoudamire, I am not sold on Josh Smith, the guy has absolutely no offensive game and we already have Ariza to be a defensive 3, just not sure about him, maybe I haven't watched him enough. I don't like their PGs, maybe a 3team deal could go down where the Knicks get a better PG in return but thats the way I see it.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 11-18-2005 3:42 PM]

Posted by BlueSeats:

ya know, for a place like Atlanta, which does have trouble drawing free agents, they may be right that nabbing Steph is better then waiting for something else. That franchise is in desperate need of some credibility and until Steph's personality puts him in the center of turmoil, which he's managed to find himself in on EVERY team he's been on, he does add a few wins and sells a few jerseys.

They're in the dumpster, they have no chemistry to begin with, his contract only has three years left now, what have they got to lose?

I go to a lot of hawks games blue, marbs would be perfect here, he went to college here, has plenty of fans, will fill seats and he and JJ actually give the Hawks a hell of a backcourt, at least scoring wise. For the next 3 years,Atlanta will rally behind the team because they will at least win more than 15 games, and they can push marbs and JJ as two stars in Atlanta... But the problem is the junk they want to give us in return, If we do that, I want Harrington, a first round pick, top 5 protected for atlanta, and josh smith... they won't do that, but that is what I would want back..

Posted by nyk4ever:


Bobs I'd be careful about Delk, I'm not so sure he's a Larry-type PG.. he's never really been a great guy to LEAD a offense, he's more of a Shooting PG.

I meant as a backup....he's expiring and plays D. Good enough for me.

I'm starting to worry, I need to see Marbs shut up and play tonight or I may be joining Mck1

Marbs is doing the right thing. He is having a hissy fit cuz he is not on his stats. He is a diva with high expecttions.

A few wins under his belt and team leader to be proud of is all this team needs!

Larry will help prolong and elevate his career.

Keep him!

Marbs is doing the right thing. He is having a hissy fit cuz he is not on his stats. He is a diva with high expecttions.

A few wins under his belt and team leader to be proud of is all this team needs!

Larry will help prolong and elevate his career.

Keep him!

Wow Nalod.. having some internet problems today? lol. You do have a point though, if Marbury leads this team to a few wins now he'll feel more like a leader then ever. Is it a stetch that this happens? Yeah a bit, but if it does I can definately see this kicking Marbs leadership levels up a notch.