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11/18/2005  1:20 PM
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November 18, 2005 -- SO nice of Isiah Thomas to grace the Knicks in Los Angeles with his conscientious presence after his team had beaten two stumblebums (Kings and Jazz) in a row.
So nice of him suddenly to show up undisguised for a nationally televised game and leak to the legions the news his roster isn't perfect.

So nice of the rigger to agree with the jumper whose chute he packed that it's only partially deployed.

Hours before Larry Brown's flawed Knicks had their winning streak shattered by Phil Jackson's flawed Lakers Wednesday, Thomas slyly rationalized "every roster is flawed, unless you win a championship."

Lumping his lumps in with the other 28 non-titlists is a pity party not worth crashing. It's like placing a diamond with a slight imperfection in the same jewelry box as the faux baubles and thinking any self-respectin' rapper can't bring the bling.

That's not the only silliness Thomas was selling Wednesday night at the Office Supply Store. He came up for oxygen long enough to solemnly swear last week's report in this space - claiming teams have been advised of Stephon Marbury's availability - is erroneous.

Even Bye-Ron Scott got a chuckle over that priceless repudiation.



On the other hand, the media at large, caught up in its customary battle fatigue to differentiate fact from fiction, took a long swig of Thomas' Kool-Aid. His unflinching denial was merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily (life is but a dream) publicized, as if Thomas is about to acknowledge he's trying to pawn off his poisonous pet fawn, or admit Brown is instigating the attempted purging. Camp Cablevision's James Dolan should've used his franchise's one-time luxury tax exception (covering the current collective bargaining agreement) on Marbury instead of Jerome Williams when it had the opportunity to save a fortune and a wealth of aggravation.

Barring a return to the league by Shawn Kemp's uncle Bob Whitsitt, it appears Marbury (and his $57 million over the next three seasons) isn't going anywhere soon. Consequently, Brown's mission is to make Marbury as miserable as possible by insisting he become the best point guard on the Knicks.

Meanwhile, we're all making too big a deal about Kobe outscoring Marbury, 42-4; Stephon, for instance. As yesterday's stark sound bites confirm, he's not all that interested in learning to be a team player. In fact, it may be against his religion, as many who've played with him attest. News Flash: Converting to off guard so he can manufacture points for himself is where Marbury is coming from. Let someone else worry about creating for those who can't, a brain drizzle Brown finds unappealing.

All may not be quiet on the western front, but the bulletins aren't all bad. At least Marbury's selfishness is finally out in the open. I would've hated to be the one to out him. From where I'm cackling, I see only one negative in all this: Lost in Marbury's outburst and the melancholy of the Knicks' seismic momentum shift while in L.A. is the encouraging detail that Stephon came within six points of Smush Parker.

I don't want to appear too judgmental, but the winning coach in the juggernaut between the two fabled franchises that in all likelihood will miss the spring prom has got to be Red Auerbach.



Great article, especially the first 5 paragraphs.

I knew I should have copyrighted my Kool-Aid remark as it applies to Isiah.

[Edited by - islesfan on 11-18-2005 1:23 PM]
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11/18/2005  1:28 PM
this article sux.
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11/18/2005  1:41 PM
Stephon, for instance. As yesterday's stark sound bites confirm, he's not all that interested in learning to be a team player.

News Flash: Converting to off guard so he can manufacture points for himself is where Marbury is coming from. Let someone else worry about creating for those who can't,

This is it in a nutshell. Marbury is and always has been an incredibly selfish player. He's been a cancer on every team that he's played for, including the Knicks. There's a reason why he's never won anything in his life, because he's a loser who only cares about himself.

Some people realized this the day the trade was made. A trade that has set this franchise back at least a decade. We can trade him for some other high priced questionable player or players and we'll still be paying for this trade since we still owe another #1 draft pick.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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11/18/2005  1:42 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:

this article sux.



Why Killa? Because it's negative press towards the Knicks or because it's true?
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11/18/2005  1:46 PM
This article is stupid. It's not even an article, it's an opinion piece.

There is only one quote in the entire piece:
"every roster is flawed, unless you win a championship."

And that quote is correct.

Stupid article. and there is no "in a nutshell"

It's pure opinion.
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11/18/2005  1:46 PM
What does this even mean?

Even Bye-Ron Scott got a chuckle over that priceless repudiation.
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11/18/2005  1:48 PM
The fact is the article was written by vecsey who for what ever reason has a bone to pick with isiah. Every chance he has he attacks isiah. Vecsey has No credibility and is very bitter when it comes to the knicks. Also the fact that vecsey thinks the knicks should have used the houston rule on marbury is RIDICULOUS! Go the hell vecsey we hate you.

[Edited by - bigreddog on 11-18-2005 1:49 PM]
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11/18/2005  1:49 PM
Maybe because it's another of Pete Vescey's snotty digs at the team we are fans of. That punk needs to go somewhere and kiss an unwiped ass, for real.

Vescey is a hater who primarily caters to pessimists.

Isles, now's a nice time to clean that framed autographed picture you have of him. You know, the one next to the framed pic of Chad Fraud.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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11/18/2005  1:50 PM
Hopefully the knicks win tonight so Isles can go on another hiatus.
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11/18/2005  1:51 PM
this guy doesnt even follow the team
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11/18/2005  1:53 PM
big game tonight...I'd be ecstatic if we won in Denver.
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11/18/2005  1:55 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

There is only one quote in the entire piece:
"every roster is flawed, unless you win a championship."

And that quote is correct.



So you think that the team that loses in the Finals is flawed like the team that finishes with the 30th best record in the NBA? Do you think that those 2 teams had similar seasons and the fans of those teams enjoyed those seasons just as much?
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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11/18/2005  1:55 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

What does this even mean?

Even Bye-Ron Scott got a chuckle over that priceless repudiation.

Byron said Vescey was all wrong about Maglore trade rumors, then 3 days later he was traded.

Vescey is an entertainer.

I don't ever take him serioiusly, but he on occasion brings up a good point and is obnoxious.

Knick media has been more correct than wrong the last few years.

Fans can project change, media just reports what they see. Its what they do!

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11/18/2005  1:56 PM
You know half the time i don't know what Peter Vecesy is talking about. I just read his articles because they are basketball related. But when I'm reading his articles I always get zoned out in the middle then find myself at the end of the article with no idea on what he was talking about. All I manage to comprehend from his articles are BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH......
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11/18/2005  1:58 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

Hopefully the knicks win tonight so Isles can go on another hiatus.


Glad to see that you pay such close attention to my comings and goings on this board but I did post during that period just not as often. It's called being busy at work.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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11/18/2005  2:00 PM
Trust me, when you are busy at work, it coincides with knick wins, and I'm not paying attention, I just notice the lack of negativity in the postings.

Nothing more, nothing less.

This is about the time you throw in a personal dig.

So, allow me to be first. fatty.
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11/18/2005  2:01 PM
Posted by BigRedDog:

Also the fact that vecsey thinks the knicks should have used the houston rule on marbury is RIDICULOUS!
[Edited by - bigreddog on 11-18-2005 1:49 PM]

Pretty sure that was a sarcastic comment... Vecsey's writing is always full of sarcasm.
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11/18/2005  2:06 PM
Posted by boomann:

You know half the time i don't know what Peter Vecesy is talking about. I just read his articles because they are basketball related. But when I'm reading his articles I always get zoned out in the middle then find myself at the end of the article with no idea on what he was talking about. All I manage to comprehend from his articles are BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH......

It's called adult onset Attention Deficit Disorder or ADD.
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11/18/2005  2:10 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

Trust me, when you are busy at work, it coincides with knick wins, and I'm not paying attention, I just notice the lack of negativity in the postings.

Nothing more, nothing less.

This is about the time you throw in a personal dig.

So, allow me to be first. fatty.


LOL Right, you know how badly I've messed with your head. The 3rd grade insults are just further proof.
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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11/18/2005  2:11 PM
sometimes vescey is right but sometimes hes wrong I dont think there anyway to tell. although I do agree that marbury isnt a PG by nature.
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