Here are the unofficial Knicks stats for charges drawn. Not player control or offensive fouls. Strictly get your body in front and draw the charge.

Quentin Richardson 6
Antonio Davis 5
Mo Taylor 3
Stephon Marbury 2
David Lee 1
Eddie Curry 1
Trevor Ariza 1

Dunk Stats
Eddie Curry 12
Trevor Ariza 6
Channing Frye 2
David Lee 2
Matt Barnes 2
Antonio Davis 1

To start off, I'm mostly impressed with Q and his defense overall. I didn't think he had it in him before the season started, but the guy is playing tough.

As for the dunks, Bip, you know as well as anyone that I think dunking can be a misleading thing in the NBA (In terms of if someone doesn't dunk a lot, a lot of people assume they aren't good or athletic or aggresive). However, I remember 3 years ago we were saying how the best dunk of the season was the Shanderson dunk over Gerald Wallace. That dunk was mad cool, don't get me wrong, but now all of our guys ARE dunking like that a lot more consistently. Our games are so much more entertaining now.

They showed the game of Allan Houston scoring 53 points last week, and as awesome as that performance was, that Knick team was so freaking unwatchable. Last year was kinda bad too, but at least we had something to look foward to. But now it's just a breath of fresh air for once.

Q is starting to remind me of a yonger, taller Charlie Ward. Sit on the outside shoot threes and draw charges. I like his D but his offense is bothering me.

But don't you miss the times guys like Marcus Camby would block his shot 12 times a game, and all the hot dog rolls on the back of his neck? Well, we still have Malik and Jerome for that stuff so I guess it should be *kinda* hard to miss him.

I miss how the basketball would get lost in his hot dog rolls after it got blocked.

I also miss how fans would argue the merits of our coach when our roster consisted of 8 or 9 guys that can't even make rotations nowadays

Yeah I agree with all you guys. Everytime I see someone draw a charge I'm prety sure it's going to be Q or Antonio(Mo T if he's playing). As for the Marbury numbers to me it just shows a committment. I'm surprised Nate doesn't have any. I predicted he would lead the team.

Over Under on when Jamal draws his first charge(game 20)

I think dunking is very important to basketball. It gets the fans into it, it can take the other fans out of it, and it really can excite a team or take a team out of it. Like when Trevor got that rebound and than dunked it in. How often do teams call a time out after a spectacular dunk?

And this team was horrid when it came to athletes a few years ago. Just horrible. Not exciting at all. Not worth watching. Just boring as hell. Man I hate Scott Layden.

"How often do teams call a time out after a spectacular dunk?"

I agree that dunks are great to get the fans in the game and can really get a team up. But their importance is less than that of a dagger three. And coach's normally call a timeout to get rest for players or because the team is playing bad, not because of a dunk.

Posted by Bippity10:

"How often do teams call a time out after a spectacular dunk?"

I agree that dunks are great to get the fans in the game and can really get a team up. But their importance is less than that of a dagger three. And coach's normally call a timeout to get rest for players or because the team is playing bad, not because of a dunk.

For whatever reason the dunk is an exclamation point. And usually occurs during a fast break lapse in defense, or a general lapse in defense. I think its a very powerful psychological weapon, and I think creates alot more stimuli than a 3. Sure coaches call timeouts for many reasons, but I just remember many times a timeout is called after the opposing team broke down their defense and dunked.

By itself its not great, but its good to have players who can. Im sure everyone can dunk in the league, but there would be 10-12 games in the Layden era where I wouldnt see one Knick dunk. Booorrrinnnngg.

Interesting stats...did you keep track of them yourself or is there somewhere online where I can get them?

I've actually been impressed with Mo T this year. He is buying in. I'm glad that Q is taking charges and trying on D...otherwise having a guy who solely takes 3's would be pretty annoying. He's gotta vary that game...we know he has the ability.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by VDesai:

Interesting stats...did you keep track of them yourself or is there somewhere online where I can get them?

I've actually been impressed with Mo T this year. He is buying in. I'm glad that Q is taking charges and trying on D...otherwise having a guy who solely takes 3's would be pretty annoying. He's gotta vary that game...we know he has the ability.

You can find those stats on www.bipstats.com

there must be something wrong with the site b/c everytime i click on it...it sends me to www.jeromejamesisabigfatbuttermilkbiscuitdippedingravy.com