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OAK
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11/12/2005  8:57 AM
Would they do this? Would you?

NY TRADES
  • Stephon Marbury
    6-2 PG from Georgia Tech, 21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes

  • Malik Rose
    6-7 PF from Drexel, 8.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 23.6 minutes


TORONTO TRADES
  • Jalen Rose
    6-8 SG from Michigan, 18.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.6 apg in 33.5 minutes

  • Mike James
    6-2 PG from Duquesne, 12.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 25.6 minutes

  • Rights to Roko Ukic

  • 2 future 1st round picks


20yrs old 6-5 PG Roko Leni-Ukic signed a four-year deal with a Spanish Club this yr. http://nbadraft.net/profiles/roko-leniukic.asp

Line up
Crawford/Nate
Q-Rich/Mike James
Rose/Ariza/Barnes
Frye/AD/Lee
Curry/Taylor

Inactive
Penny
Butler
JJ
(rights to ukic)

This will save us $56mm over the next 4yrs. In 07/08 season, payroll will be down to $35mm with Curry, Crawford, Q-Rich, JJ, Frye, Nate, Lee still signed (hopefully Ariza too). And that's when LeBron/Josh Howard/Wade/Bosh/TJ Ford/Sweetney/Darko will be FA(restricted). Unrestricted FAs include Peja/Desmond Mason/Lampe/Magloire/Posey.

could this be possible?
Crawford/Nate
LeBron/(Ariza?)
Peja/Q-Rich
Frye/Lee
Curry/JJ

[Edited by - OAK on 11-12-2005 09:18 AM]
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Silverfuel
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11/12/2005  8:58 AM
dont wanna trade Stephon.
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11/12/2005  9:05 AM
um..why would u wanna trade steph when he's played well....if anything trade penny and rose outta here
''We don't have the luxury to take anybody lightly,'' New York's Quentin Richardson said. ''We're not that good.''
OAK
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11/12/2005  9:12 AM
So you prefer Marbury over us having $20mm+ in cap space that we could use to sign a superstar or stars who can play under Brown's system.

Interesting.
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11/12/2005  9:13 AM
So you prefer Marbury over us having $20mm+ in cap space
Cap space? You don't get cap space if you go from a $1 trillion over the cap to $20 mil less than $1 trillion over the cap (which is basically what trading Marbury would do)
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11/12/2005  9:18 AM
the only way this could work in ny is if steph plays the SG. we saw more of that last night. let's see that role expand and then re-evaluate 20 games down the road.
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11/12/2005  9:21 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

the only way this could work in ny is if steph plays the SG. we saw more of that last night. let's see that role expand and then re-evaluate 20 games down the road.


If Marbury can consistently play the SG position like he did today, great. But we need a PG who can make plays and defend.
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11/12/2005  9:32 AM
Posted by OAK:
Posted by djsunyc:

the only way this could work in ny is if steph plays the SG. we saw more of that last night. let's see that role expand and then re-evaluate 20 games down the road.


If Marbury can consistently play the SG position like he did today, great. But we need a PG who can make plays and defend.
Exactly; if we move Marbury to SG, we need to go out and get a competent PG. If we keep Marbury at PG, we need to go out and get an SG who can shoot dependably. We're very weak at whatever backcourt position Marbury doesn't play.

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11/12/2005  9:36 AM
Stephon's a keeper.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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11/12/2005  9:50 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

the only way this could work in ny is if steph plays the SG. we saw more of that last night. let's see that role expand and then re-evaluate 20 games down the road.
DONE!! Give it time people. I am not saying 'Stephon has to stay' but lets not trade him 4 games into the season. 20 or 30 games from now, if we still suck and Steph is not great, lets talk.
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11/12/2005  9:56 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:

DONE!! Give it time people. I am not saying 'Stephon has to stay' but lets not trade him 4 games into the season. 20 or 30 games from now, if we still suck and Steph is not great, lets talk.

Cool, I'll say it then. Stephon has to stay. He's the best player on this team. He played his azz off last night, and will continue to improve.

How many boards did Stephon get last night? How many turnovers did he committ?
The efforts from him and the rest of the team will soon pay off in W's.
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11/12/2005  9:57 AM
Agree w/ Hardcore. patience is a virtue.
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11/12/2005  11:02 AM
Stephon for Mike "Small Time" James, Jalen "The Malcontent" Rose, and this Roko "Who the F" Ukic guy noone has ever seen who is signed for 4 years to a European team?

How can we not make this trade?

oohah

Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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11/12/2005  11:08 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
So you prefer Marbury over us having $20mm+ in cap space
Cap space? You don't get cap space if you go from a $1 trillion over the cap to $20 mil less than $1 trillion over the cap (which is basically what trading Marbury would do)


At this point, since we gave up our #1 pick for 06 or 07, its useless to trade marbs right now- all we're doing is giving the bulls a potential #1 overall pick. Best wait till the Bulls use up our pick before blowing the team up. If, however someone will take marbs + jj, i say sign on the dotted line
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11/12/2005  11:15 AM
Posted by oohah:

Stephon for Mike "Small Time" James, Jalen "The Malcontent" Rose, and this Roko "Who the F" Ukic guy noone has ever seen who is signed for 4 years to a European team?

How can we not make this trade?

oohah
LOL

This trade sux ballz!!



[Edited by - Killa4luv on 11-12-2005 11:17 AM]
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11/12/2005  11:21 AM
Marbury isn't going anywhere. He is a better player than any we could hope to acquire at this point. Anyone better is untouchable. I agree he plays at the 2 and we pick up a competent PG and we are rolling. Coming out last night we were flowing with him playing at the 2, then the 3rd quarter comes along and he is back at point and we lose our lead. That seems to be pretty definitive. Our team has the talent, LB just needs to utilize it. Calling for trades at this point is like blowing up the team last year when we started to roll. What we need is chemistry, and that only comes with time. I see good things buried under some hard to watch things. Keep hope Alive, bench Rose and Penny, and bring in the Butler.
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11/12/2005  11:34 AM
let's find a PG from Free agency.

Hoopshype free agents
1. Vonteego Cummings- (29 yrs old) - tireless defender
2. Lionel Chalmers (25 yrs old)- quick, good 3 pt shooter
3. Tito Maddox (24 yrs old)- creative PG. Tough defender
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11/12/2005  12:13 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by OAK:
Posted by djsunyc:

the only way this could work in ny is if steph plays the SG. we saw more of that last night. let's see that role expand and then re-evaluate 20 games down the road.


If Marbury can consistently play the SG position like he did today, great. But we need a PG who can make plays and defend.
Exactly; if we move Marbury to SG, we need to go out and get a competent PG. If we keep Marbury at PG, we need to go out and get an SG who can shoot dependably. We're very weak at whatever backcourt position Marbury doesn't play.


I'm pretty confident that Crawford will become very solid at the point. He's been showing progress.
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11/12/2005  12:19 PM
Posted by OAK:

Would they do this? Would you?

NY TRADES
  • Stephon Marbury
    6-2 PG from Georgia Tech, 21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes

  • Malik Rose
    6-7 PF from Drexel, 8.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 23.6 minutes


TORONTO TRADES
  • Jalen Rose
    6-8 SG from Michigan, 18.5 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 2.6 apg in 33.5 minutes

  • Mike James
    6-2 PG from Duquesne, 12.4 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 25.6 minutes

  • Rights to Roko Ukic

  • 2 future 1st round picks


20yrs old 6-5 PG Roko Leni-Ukic signed a four-year deal with a Spanish Club this yr. http://nbadraft.net/profiles/roko-leniukic.asp

Line up
Crawford/Nate
Q-Rich/Mike James
Rose/Ariza/Barnes
Frye/AD/Lee
Curry/Taylor

Inactive
Penny
Butler
JJ
(rights to ukic)

This will save us $56mm over the next 4yrs. In 07/08 season, payroll will be down to $35mm with Curry, Crawford, Q-Rich, JJ, Frye, Nate, Lee still signed (hopefully Ariza too). And that's when LeBron/Josh Howard/Wade/Bosh/TJ Ford/Sweetney/Darko will be FA(restricted). Unrestricted FAs include Peja/Desmond Mason/Lampe/Magloire/Posey.

could this be possible?
Crawford/Nate
LeBron/(Ariza?)
Peja/Q-Rich
Frye/Lee
Curry/JJ

[Edited by - OAK on 11-12-2005 09:18 AM]

What the heck, let's do this trade, but one thing get Butler off the Inactive list!.
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11/12/2005  12:21 PM
the picks from toronto may make the trade something to look at. Jalen rose can score and he is fearless down the stretch, something we don't have right now... Rose is a go to guy late, has ice water in his body.... Getting rid of malik rose is a plus...
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