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fishmike
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11/8/2005  12:45 PM
http://www.82games.com/0506/0506NYK.HTM

We all know the team has played best when Ariza and the 3 rooks are in but this is really crazy. These are updated through the first 3.

Also RV had said something about Antonio's rebounding being good. Look at how the KNicks are with him on the floor. Hmmm.... stats stats stats

I thought Mo T had played well when he was in (especially the game where he drew 2 charges) but I didnt realize it was THAT good. I would keep him in the rotation and pair him with Frye at times for an inside outside punch.

I'm sticking to my prefered 3 guard line up
Marbury/Crawford/Q/Frye/Curry with the bench being: Nate/Ariza/Mo T/Lee
Barnes/JJ/AD/Rose/Penny can sit until further notice. I dont where Butler is at.
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11/8/2005  12:49 PM
I guess this means Rose starts. Sucka!

Lies, damn lies and statistics...trust me, it's my field.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 11-08-2005 12:51 PM]
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11/8/2005  12:50 PM
I don't undestand those stats. How can Rose give the team a positive gain? Impossible.
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11/8/2005  12:50 PM
These #s are quite unstable this early in the season. I'm sure they'll get much smaller but the point that the young guys are winners and the vets are losing games is clear.
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11/8/2005  12:51 PM
Curry's +/- are disappointing but similar to his #s in Chicago.
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11/8/2005  12:52 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

These #s are quite unstable this early in the season. I'm sure they'll get much smaller but the point that the young guys are winners and the vets are losing games is clear.
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11/8/2005  12:54 PM
clarification:
anybody can take any stats and shape them to their argument.

The klan can say that more minorites committ crimes because a larger percentage of their population commit them, but they forget that only 15% of the population committ them, sooooo...

the NAACP can say more whites commit crimes because the number of them to committ them out numbers the number of minorities that committ them, but 80% of the 300Mill are white, so makes since.

After game three, we all know Rose has sucked, but according to the Fish stat, he should be starting.

One stat to support one argument, contradicts another solid argument.

it's all about sample size, and at this point, it's just not big enough.
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11/8/2005  12:56 PM
So what's your point? AD getting 9 boards a game is meaningless?

I don't see the correlation.
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Bonn1997:

These #s are quite unstable this early in the season. I'm sure they'll get much smaller but the point that the young guys are winners and the vets are losing games is clear.
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11/8/2005  12:58 PM
According to you, he's where Penny is.

I have to rebut you oohah style, after one sentence makes no sense, I then see the next one that makes no sense and then the next one.

Construction workers shouldn't try to use statistics, they kill the music in the numbers.
Posted by fishmike:

I dont where Butler is at.




[Edited by - rvhoss on 11-08-2005 12:58 PM]
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11/8/2005  1:04 PM
also, for everyone who says we need a shooting forward, (myself included), so far, it's our most productive position. by A LOT.

http://www.82games.com/0506/0506NYK5.HTM
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11/8/2005  1:07 PM
I'm actually going to take everything back, I love these stats!!

Eff AD, with the budding star Ariza and the yin and yang like dominance of Curry Frye(s), we are well on our way.

THANKS FISHY!!!
Posted by efw:

also, for everyone who says we need a shooting forward, (myself included), so far, it's our most productive position. by A LOT.

http://www.82games.com/0506/0506NYK5.HTM




[Edited by - rvhoss on 11-08-2005 1:09 PM]
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11/8/2005  1:13 PM
42% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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11/8/2005  1:15 PM
That, my friend, was 95% funny.
Posted by franco12:

42% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


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11/8/2005  1:17 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

According to you, he's where Penny is.

I have to rebut you oohah style, after one sentence makes no sense, I then see the next one that makes no sense and then the next one.

Construction workers shouldn't try to use statistics, they kill the music in the numbers.
Posted by fishmike:

I dont where Butler is at.




[Edited by - rvhoss on 11-08-2005 12:58 PM]
I dont know where he's at BB wise. I cant say he deserves to play or doesnt. Thats what I meant.


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fishmike
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11/8/2005  1:18 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

So what's your point? AD getting 9 boards a game is meaningless?

I don't see the correlation.
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Bonn1997:

These #s are quite unstable this early in the season. I'm sure they'll get much smaller but the point that the young guys are winners and the vets are losing games is clear.
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since we now have stats that prove the Knicks are horrible with AD in the line up what conclusion would you draw Einstien?


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11/8/2005  1:21 PM
Ariza is a budding new star and/or your stats are skewed (Rose best front court player)...

isn't it obvious frankenstein?

[Edited by - rvhoss on 11-08-2005 1:21 PM]
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11/8/2005  1:59 PM
so they arent skewed for Ariza but they are for Rose?

Why dont you stop acting like a 3 year old and actually work on keepin a thread on basketball. What *MY* stats prove are very little, and I never siad they PROVED anything. What they show is the young guys are + and when AD is on the floor the Knicks are terrible.

Its 3 games. Take it for what its worth. Its the same 3 games that has you and your girlfriend convinced Ariza is the next superstar in the league because... well he's 20 and all 20 year olds that show promise become stars. Duh.. I got it now.
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11/8/2005  2:08 PM
The stats prove that Frye and Ariza and Lee have played the best this far. Marbs and Jamal have been bad, but look who they play with (AD and Barnes...yuck).

You know what's funny? Larry Brown used +/- stats as his reason for keeping Darko on the bench last season. He actually mentioned 82games.com. I hope he checks 82games.com before the Portland game. I wish we'd waived AD for Chicago and never signed Barnes.
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11/8/2005  2:23 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by rvhoss:

So what's your point? AD getting 9 boards a game is meaningless?

I don't see the correlation.
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Bonn1997:

These #s are quite unstable this early in the season. I'm sure they'll get much smaller but the point that the young guys are winners and the vets are losing games is clear.
hey you got it! Good boy
since we now have stats that prove the Knicks are horrible with AD in the line up what conclusion would you draw Einstien?
They hardly "prove" anything with a sample size of 3 games. I'm with you that Frye and Lee should be playing ahead of AD, though. I didn't need 82games.com to tell me that.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 11-08-2005 2:25 PM]
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11/8/2005  2:25 PM
I still don't understand, does AD suck and Rose is our best front court player?
Did you pull these stats to prove that they make no sense?

What are you thoughts on Rose's high ranking? And does this confirm Ariza is a star?

And why am I acting like a 3 year old? Who is my girlfriend?

Just answer the questions fishy!!!!
Posted by fishmike:

so they arent skewed for Ariza but they are for Rose?

Why dont you stop acting like a 3 year old and actually work on keepin a thread on basketball. What *MY* stats prove are very little, and I never siad they PROVED anything. What they show is the young guys are + and when AD is on the floor the Knicks are terrible.

Its 3 games. Take it for what its worth. Its the same 3 games that has you and your girlfriend convinced Ariza is the next superstar in the league because... well he's 20 and all 20 year olds that show promise become stars. Duh.. I got it now.


[Edited by - rvhoss on 11-08-2005 2:28 PM]
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